These companies should be forced to pay big money to each and every person affected by these breaches. Not like $120. Like $10,000 per. Teach them real lessons
this post was submitted on 09 May 2024
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But instead they will be fined, and they will pay that fine to the government.
They just pay up and do it again. It's a business expense, not a punishment.
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and then, us as the consumer will pay for the fine as well
I agree. Even at $120 each. 120 times tens of millions is serious fucking cash. We need to have a couple of big companies go bankrupt over this shit. Then maybe they will start taking it seriously. Perhaps at that point maintaining personal data on people will be seen as a liability rather than an asset. And that's what we really need.
Yep data protection should be life or death. Either that or make the executives personally responsible ie the fines come out of their pockets
Why stop there? Abolish the corporate veil. Those motherfuckers can buy liability insurance.
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Yup. We need more of the corporate death penalty. And when corporations are so big that 'killing' them would harm the economy, I argue we're back to too big to fail. Maybe the answer is giant fines, and if the company can't pay, wipe out the largest shareholders and then resell the stock over time. Make people's personal information a giant hot potato that nobody wants to be holding.
Even $120 would be amazing. I just got an email that said too bad. I just bought a monitor cause that’s where they sold it. Idk why they have to save my info. I just want to pay for the product. If it was up to me, they would delete all my info immediately. They only need to record when the serial number was sold anyway.
Oh if only I was European.
Exactly... Meanwhile some poor soul goes to jail because he is too broke to pay for some parking fines
Instantly makes ~~ransomware~~ [edit 2: my brain was being dumb, I didn't mean literally ransomware, I meant hackers blackmailing companies with the threat of releasing/selling stolen data] far more profitable.
Edit: And heavily discourages self-reporting. There’s a Schneier quote I like: “You can't defend. You can't prevent. The only thing you can do is detect and respond.”
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In the case of this breach, I'd be happy with a $10 payout, the consequences for me are actually pretty low here. That being said, I think we'd be lucky if Dell had to pay more than $0.50 per person, and that money will probably go to a lawyer's fees, not me.
I'm so glad we banned tik tok so my data doesn't fall in the wrong hands.
I know you're being flippant, but it's worth noting that there is a considerable difference between a company getting hacked like this and an app with unfettered access to the cluster to sensors that we've got in our pockets.
Yeah, hackers having my data is so much better than China....
The thing with tik tok isn't only with the data China can gather from US residents. It's also how they can use that information to influence the populace and send them propaganda, for example influencing the election results.
They can also gather information about our politicians who use it and blackmail them to get what they want
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The ban is a dumb policy, but you’re daft if you think the security implications are at all similar.
TikTok was caught injecting a keylogger into their in-app browser and their response was “Well yeah, but we promise we’re not using it.”
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Got this:
Hello, Dell Technologies takes the privacy and confidentiality of your information seriously. We are currently investigating an incident involving a Dell portal, which contains a database with limited types of customer information related to purchases from Dell. We believe there is not a significant risk to our customers given the type of information involved.
What data was accessed? At this time, our investigation indicates limited types of customer information was accessed, including:
- Name
- Physical address
- Dell hardware and order information, including service tag, item description, date of order and related warranty information
~~Hello, Dell Technologies takes the privacy and confidentiality of your information seriously. We are currently investigating an incident involving a Dell portal, which contains a database with limited types of customer information related to purchases from Dell. We believe there is not a significant risk to our customers given the type of information involved.~~ Sending you this single message satisfies our legal disclosure requirement. Beyond that, we have no actual intention of fixing this, providing you with a meaningful compensation for the breech or really doing anything different at all truthfully. Fuck you.
So people know how expensive a computer is at the address. What could go wrong
Right, because international hackers are going to mobilize boots on the ground across the world to steal your fucking Optiplex.
I think it's more likely that an attacker would make a fake collections call if you bought something really expensive, especially if they can prove you bought on credit or something. A little ChatGPT and you'd have a targeted script to use.
The leak didn't include phone numbers or emails but I'm sure there will be attempts at spear phishing businesses since they can figure out the business name from the physical address.
It's trivial to get phone numbers given an address in most cases.
Dude, you’re getting a delinquency letter.
But, like, we paid our fine. Sorry 🤙
Expect a ton of Indian people calling pretending to be Dell Support.
Somebody needs to make a "Dell Dude meme" about this.
"Dude, you're getting your identity stolen!"
They emailed me earlier about it... Good thing I've only ever bought a monitor from them.
Sames. They make sweet monitors.
Even then, why do they need to store my personal information? After delivery, my info should be wiped besides the date of purchase for said serial number.
What fuckin data is dell even getting and how?
I got their notice email, apparently I bought a laptop charger from them years ago, and after all this time they were still keeping my name, email and physical address, which now leaked. So that's how.
That's insane to me
Holy fuck. Is that like all their customers?
lol no