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Hundreds of new shelters set up near Khan Younis as Palestinians flee fighting in Rafah

Archived version: https://archive.ph/JYZeK

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

Camps. Tents. These people had homes. They werent taken by natural disaster.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I noticed they're still using the numbers that Hamas puts out on the number of Palestinians killed. Even the UN has revised their numbers now.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

UN is unable to independently verify, since IDF keeps killing their staff. So they had to change how they verify deaths, which reclassified the people killed, not the total number of people killed. It's a moot point anyway, since Palestinian figures are known to be highly credible. They have plenty of reasons to be diligent about it, and zero reasons to invent stuff.

Historically, the UN and other agencies have found that overall figures produced by the Gaza ministry of health have been largely reliable. Among those agencies is the World Health Organization, which says the ministry has “good capacity in data collection” and its previous reporting has been credible and “well developed”.

Source: https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/13/gaza-ministry-revises-figures-for-women-and-children-killed

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Here's your trustworthy UN

https://www.foxnews.com/world/idf-claims-photos-show-hamas-combatants-un-compound-rafah

and btw, the UN minisrty of health is getting their numbers from Hamas, so I guess if you trust Hamas, it is what it is

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Still waiting for that video to be independently verified. So far, no major corporate news network ran that video since they are unable to verify it.

and btw, the UN minisrty of health is getting their numbers from Hamas, so I guess if you trust Hamas, it is what it is

I do trust Hamas for the number of dead. They literally have a proven track record of keeping an accurate count that was independently verified after past Israeli crimes. After the Hamas attack, Israel let people in to independently verify the number of killed, yet they prevent the same for when they kill. Why?

And it's ironic that a random video gets more coverage than children getting murdered on mass. All the Israel supporters are clinging to this video like it's some vindication and justification for the genocide being committed. It's not. If you care more about being right than children being brutally murdered, you are the problem in this world.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Admittedly the UN does say it's likely one of their warehouses, but crucially it's abandoned. Hamas only came in after the UN left, which is very much not the implication Israel and Zionist media are trying to make.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Oh, I see, just like they were honest when they said Israel blew up a hospital, and they raided another hospital and put like 300 people in a mass grave huh? Right...kick rocks

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

lmao, citing Fox as some kind of credible source on anything, smdh.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Uh... No. They still use GHM numbers. The UN revised numbers are fully identified deaths, meaning people with a first and last name next to their entry in the GHM's database. This is opposed to non-fully identified deaths, where it's known that X number of people died (for example an Israeli bombed blew X people to smithereens and they're unidentifiable or there's nobody left to identify them because the whole family is dead). non-fully identified numbers are the same.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Source? Where are you getting this info? Btw, Israel just released video showing Hamas working out of UN buildings and drivng UN cars so I don't know if I would believe much of what they say. https://www.foxnews.com/world/idf-claims-photos-show-hamas-combatants-un-compound-rafah

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Source? Where are you getting this info

The UN came out to correct the misunderstanding:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/13/gaza-ministry-revises-figures-for-women-and-children-killed

Also setting aside how GHM numbers are and have always been accurate according to literally everyone (Hamas has a lot to lose and nothing to gain from faking them), Fox News? Seriously? If you're gonna make claims find a source worth reading.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Okay I looked it up and here's what reputable media (which the economic times is not) has to say on the topic:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cljdjw2jrnzo

It's an abandoned UN warehouse. Hamas only came after the UN left following Israeli evacuation orders, which is very much not the implication in your link. There's nothing to investigate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Okay, so I guess the vehicles were abandoned to huh?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Yes exactly?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

It's drone footage, if you don't want to watch it, that's fine but that doesn't mean it's not true. I would've sent you a link for CNN or something but I don't think they want you to see it so I couldn't find where they reported on it