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[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 85 points 10 months ago (8 children)

me not knowing the breed looks them up via DDG

So she was basically mauled by the Demon Dogs from Ghostbusters.

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[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 69 points 10 months ago (6 children)

and the two registered dogs were safely seized having been contained inside a room, a spokesperson for the Metropolitan police said.

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[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 63 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Very sorry for the life of this lady.

Shitbulls should be banned.

[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 40 points 10 months ago (1 children)

From the article

From 1 February, it became a criminal offence to own the XL bully breed in England and Wales without an exemption certificate. Anyone who owns one of the dogs must have had the animal neutered, have it microchipped and keep it muzzled and on a lead in public, among other restrictions.

So I'm guessing she got them before they were banned and had an exception so she didn't have to have them destroyed.

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 52 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Or didn't and simply flouted the law.

There's a stereotype of people who own those breed(s) for a reason.

[–] keesrif@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The article did mention them as "registered", so I don't think this applies.

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[–] Classy@sh.itjust.works 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The lady across the street from us used to own a small dog, I think it passed and she recently got an XL bully. She struggles to walk it, always looks angry with the dog, it's always barking and glaring at me and my family. I have been carrying my gun more recently because I'm waiting for the day that dog decides to try to make a meal out of my two-year-old.

Why are dognuts the way they are? Just get a fucking pom.

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[–] liquidparasyte@pawb.social 48 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I wonder if Lemmy will be any more Normal about dogs than snoosite was

Update: prognosis is not looking good

[–] Denalduh@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago (10 children)

I can absolutely tell you the pitbull hate has arrived. I have 3 wonderful pits who adore our 10yr and 6yr niece and nephew. They cuddle up with them like teddy bears everytime they come over but according to people here, they want to maul the kids faces off...

How people can't understand that it's not the dog, it's the trainer and environment the dog is brought up in.

[–] Lobreeze@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago (7 children)

There is no reason to own a breed line that. You are just selfish.

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[–] pantyhosewimp 20 points 10 months ago

My Maltese does not have the physical capability of harming me. No temperament test required.

Not scientific but from observing human behavior in my own weird family genetics mixup, I am convinced that creatures behavior is 80% genetics and 20% environment. And bull-breeds were bred to aggressively tear apart other living creatures.

[–] fiercekitten@lemm.ee 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Because pitbulls can be raised in a loving environment with great humans and you can do everything right and the pitbull can still be set off or triggered by something many years into its peaceful life and suddenly start attacking people. They can have a moment where they simply snap, and given their strength and determination, that's dangerous and horrifying.

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[–] drislands@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

Honest question. Why do you think aggression isn't a trait that can be selectively bred for or against? Surely you agree other traits can be bred -- herding and pointing, to use some common examples.

[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I bet that was the lady's thoughts too.

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[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 13 points 10 months ago

Why can’t you understand that being capable of snuggling does not make a pitbull incapable of killing.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 47 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If she was unable to control them, she should not have gotten permission to own them in the first place.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 61 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Definitely think owning dogs should require a license and a test of some sort like driving a vehicle.

Can't control a 120lb dog? Class B license instead of Class A license.

Only allowed to buy dogs under 100lbs.

Don't understand how feeding and training works? No license for you.

Licenses for being able to own non-fixed animals as well. Being able to breed dogs and cats needs to come with way more responsibility as well.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 47 points 10 months ago (19 children)
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[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 45 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Didn't even need to put the breed in the title, we already know.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Cripes, what kind of a dick do you have to be to your own dogs to get attacked by them?

[–] ArbiterXero@lemmy.world 101 points 10 months ago (10 children)

Sometimes the breed temperament has more to do with it than anything else….

But also assholes all seem to like the same breed so….

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Breed temperament is a thing, but all dogs can be good dogs. Most are good with only slight work. People get a breed they can’t handle and no one’s happy.

[–] ArbiterXero@lemmy.world 34 points 10 months ago

It pains me to say this as a great dog lover, and someone that has known some very loving pitbulls, Sadly not all dogs can be good dogs.

Like people, some are just born as “assholes”

But yes, breed temperament is a thing. Not an absolute thing, but still a thing.

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[–] x4740N@lemmy.world 50 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There is no evidence that she was being terrible towards the dogs

Some dogs can just snap and decide to not be nice one day, its a good reason you don't let dogs you've seen be calm interact with babies because it only takes a small amount of the dog not being nice to end up harming a baby

Older people have a better chance of surviving dog attacks but the chance isn't 100% and cases like this can happen

And if I recall correctly this breed is more prone to aggressiveness

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I doubt it. Not walking them enough, keeping them cooped up, no outlets - especially if they weren’t fixed. Sad all around, but the dogs are not hatching evil plans, they’re just dogs.

Spay and neuter. Spay and neuter. And adopt.

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 13 points 10 months ago

Dogs that snapped are not being evil, it's just them acting on instinct. It's doesn't make them bad dogs, but it does make them dangerous.

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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago

The kind of dick that keeps dogs like that in the first place.

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[–] 11111one11111@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Idk if it's the same everywhere but in my experience in America I have came across a huge range of canine breeds owned by a huge range of human breeds (quality of person) and 100% of the time the human was a caring person that loved their dog the breed is unnoticeable. On the other side, when the human is subpar the breed of the dog is more noticeable as an inverse correlation to how shitty the person is.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 27 points 10 months ago (10 children)

This is the dog equivalent of "guns don't kill people, people kill people."

But without the gun, no one would be killed by the gun.

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[–] Schmuppes@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

Those who toy with the devil are sure to get burned, huh?

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 17 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The woman, who was in her 50s, was pronounced dead at the scene in Cornwall Close, Hornchurch, and the two registered dogs were safely seized having been contained inside a room, a spokesperson for the Metropolitan police said.

A spokesperson for the Met said: “Police were called to Cornwall Close around 1.12pm … to reports of a woman attacked by a dog.

“These were registered XL bully dogs and prior to officers’ arrival had been contained inside a room in the house.

From 1 February, it became a criminal offence to own the XL bully breed in England and Wales without an exemption certificate.

Footage of an XL bully dog attacking members of the public in the street in Birmingham, including a 11-year-old girl who sustained shoulder and arm injuries, prompted an outcry in September.

In November 2021, 10-year-old Jack Lis was mauled to death by a seven-stone XL bully dog called Beast.


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[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Here's a proposal: First, all dog breeding is regulated as strictly as bars with liquor licenses. Criminal charges and jail time if found doing it illegally.

Breeders and owners are required to have insurance coverage specific to dogs.

Owners are held liable for all damages their dog causes, no matter what. Your dog attacks somebody, mauls them and they seek settlement? It's on the owners. If the owner cannot be determined, the breeder is held liable.

Or, just make dogs above say, 30 pounds illegal. "But what if your dog is little and just really fat and becomes over 30 pounds?" Then you are fined and told to get your dog healthy within a certain timeframe, say 90 days, or surrender the dog and pay a fine for neglect, or get charged with animal abuse.

"Well then, nobody would want to get/breed dogs that are anywhere close to 30 pounds full grown because of the risk of violating the law." Yes...that's good. The only dogs people would have are small dogs that can't severely maul/kill people even if they do go off the rails.

"But what about hunters or sportspeople that use dogs to hunt or herd?" Plenty of herding/hunting dogs are within that 30 pound weight range, like Corgis or Beagles. Obviously there would be exceptions for government organizations that use large dogs for legitimate purposes like Saint Bernards for search and rescue.

"But muh gawd damn riaghts!!!" go cry about it.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago (2 children)

He's a proposal: you don't need new Draconian laws every time something bad happens. That's how politicians pass every bad law. Patriot act ring any bells?

Go contemplate.

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)

i get that some dogs just have a naturally high prey and aggression drive but a lot of times it has to do with learned behavior at home too :(

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 26 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This. She must have been giving them treats whenever they killed her.

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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

It was two xl bully Yorkies I'm guessing.

[–] AbackDeckWARLORD@sh.itjust.works 17 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Judging by this thread, I'm honestly surprised someone hasn't said that Chihuahuas are more dangerous yet.

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[–] recapitated@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

In this thread, a fine demonstration of how hatred stems from fear which stems from ignorance and lack of experience, and a general lack of grasp on probs and stats. Par for the course.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Well how about enlightening people oh wise one instead of moaning

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[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I mean, it's never the labrador that is in the news killing people.

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