No genocide to see here, ladies and gents! This is strictly peaceful Israelis forced to defend themselves!
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I want to add a word that I never see that needs to enter the mainstream lexicon:
"Pogrom".
Apparently, this isn't a commonly known term, although it's less obscure to Jews. A pogrom is a form of terrorism in which a population decides to get rid of or inflict their hatred on a marginalized ethnic group by routinely rolling through their towns or neighborhoods dolling out unrestrained violence. It is often accompanied by warnings and demands that the population relocate or face constantly escalating barbarism. It's a form of persistent mass terrorism, usually sanctioned by the state.
Pogroms as a familiar concept emerged as a practice in Russia in the 19th and 20th century toward Jews, though they're well known to have been used throughout history. Traditionally, Jews have been the historical target of pogroms for centuries, and it's not a coincidence that Israeli Jews are using these tactics. These are familiar to them. They know exactly what they are doing. This is NOT independent acts of violence, this is a reenactment of atrocities faced by the grandparents and great grandparents of many Israelis Jews.
Pogroms are always horrific and depraved on their own. But the added context that these people are appropriating the weapons of extermination that they know well from the receiving end, it's just... I don't quite have the words to capture my horror.
These are pogroms. They are a relic of the medieval era and of the atrocities of the 1800s and early 1900s. They should stay in history, but they are being dusted off with deliberate intent by Itmar Ben-Gvir and the exterminationist wing of mainstream Israeli society.
These are not "Rising tensions" or "Settler violence", they are POGROMS. We all need to say it.
More info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogrom
Yes, to my knowledge this is how pogroms started, against Jewish people. Latter on, the term expanded to other (ethic, religious among others) minorities as well. And for so-so many decades, zionists have been doing pogroms against Palestinians.
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Is this really such an obscure term in English? I definitely remember hearing it in school here in Austria, perhaps in the context of the November pogroms of 1938, but may have been from other contexts too; I don't remember the details.
I don't really know. It shouldn't be, but I have not seen any newspaper report "West Bank pogroms continue to increase post Oct. 7, despite international complaints."
Pogrom, Settler Violence...
Por que no los dos?
My frustration is that I think terms like "settler violence" misinform people:
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the violence isn't coming from a handful of lone-wolf settlers. It's state sanctioned.
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this isn't just violence like a bar flight or soccer riot. It's deliberate, methodical, ethnic cleansing. It is a purposeful atrocity.
We need to hold the whole Israeli government and a bunch of specific NGOs accountable for all of this.
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Pogrom.
From Russia to Israel
effectively puts Israel in the place of the Jews’ historic persecutors. This is a highly uncomfortable position for many Jewish people, particularly in Israel.
In today’s Israel, minority rights have been suppressed as well, particularly in the West Bank. Palestinians in the West Bank, unlike the Jewish settlers next to them, face violence and discrimination in nearly every aspect of their lives. In other words, Israeli Jews and Palestinians are today not equal partners in an ethnic rivalry.
historical records show far more rioters were arrested and punished by Russia in 1881 than in Huwara this week, where only eight of the 400 Jewish offenders were arrested, only to be quickly released.
It's a terrible irony.
How settlers occupying a land that is not their take revenge?
With help from the US. Here is an article from November 2023:
There’s a Wave of Violence in the West Bank. New York Charities Are Helping Fund It.
Tax-deductible donations are arming Israeli settlers with combat gear, surveillance systems, and more.
“The ties between New York state and war crimes being carried out by Israeli settlers are egregious,” said Jay Saper, a New York–based organizer with Jewish Voice for Peace. “It’s long overdue for the state to take action.”
Earlier this year, Jewish Voice for Peace and other anti-occupation groups launched a campaign to stem the flow of tax-exempt donations from New York organizations to West Bank settlements. The “Not on Our Dime” act, introduced in the state Legislature in May, grew out of the activist effort and sought to empower the state attorney general to revoke the nonprofit status of groups funding settlements. Dozens of state legislators almost immediately condemned it as “a ploy to demonize Jewish charities.”
US is deff enabling Israel's war crimes and human rights violations. And we will also have to pay the price for this shit.
These are their Western Values...
... same as 19th century Russia and early 20th century Germany.
These groups are like the Israeli Hamas - religious fundamentalists who just want violence. The only thing that separates them in my mind is the lack of political power and billions in funding. Unfortunately, they are gradually increasing in both power and funding under the likes of Smotrich and Ben-Gvir.
Don't compare the oppressors and colonizers to the freedom fighters.
Don't excuse terrorists with fancy words like "freedom fighters"
This is rich. I personally, fully support the Namibian freedom fighters.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/28/world/europe/germany-namibia-genocide.html
German soldiers targeted people of two ethnic groups — the Herero and the Nama — because they had resisted land grabs by German settlers. Africans were shot, hanged, abandoned in the desert and died in concentration camps
Killing the indigenous people for resisting, is the shared western civilization value Isaac Herzog meant.
Pogroms existed before Hamas. And may have also been the reason hamas was founded. Also any sources on billions of funding hamas has? These settlers are backed by a state who is allied with the biggest military power in the world. They do in fact have billions in funding. Russia arrests more people than israel ever does for its settlers. That's how bad it is. And even when they are arrested they get to go out immediately.
Israeli state itself is like hamas
Hamas has an annual budget between $600 million and $2.5 billion.
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That's aid to pay the salaries and provide aid to people in Gaza. About ~$1000 per person per year, not much at all.
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literally quoting heart of darkness?
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