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[–] [email protected] 72 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

So you can be the president if you're a felon but felons can't vote?

[–] [email protected] 76 points 10 months ago

Yup. Authoritarians often criminalize their opponents to prevent them from running, like Putin did to Navalny. Even if banning felons from office could have positive effects, it's also a dangerous flaw that bad actors in power could exploit to maintain their power.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

As to the first part, yes. If the founders had blocked federal office due to a felony conviction, just imagine the clusterfuck. 200+ years of anyone and everyone trying to get a conviction, of any kind, on their opponents.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

Same thing goes for the second part. It's a roundabout way to block federal representation of certain groups of people. This is why automatically being blocked to vote because of a conviction shouldn't be a thing. As you say that would (and does) lead to a clusterfuck.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The basic idea being people wouldn't elect a felon.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago (9 children)

It's already started over in Twitter. MAGA Cultists are already thinking that America has 'died' lol.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago (2 children)

They're calling for Civil War lol

[–] [email protected] 38 points 10 months ago (12 children)

And of course, they'll all be treated by the FBI with kid gloves, while leftists pointing out the impending need for self defense from their treasonous aggression will be persecuted as terrorists.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Some 10% to 27% of Americans, depending on whom you ask, want the full Trump program: mass executions of liberals, bans on contraception and homosexuality, Christian nationalism, the whole Unified Reich thing, and plenty of opportunities to denounce annoying neighbours/coworkers/acquaintances as “woke” and have then taken away. Another 10-20% are low-information voters who “aren’t political”, but know, from news headlines, that things are in some way not going well, and based on vibes, believe it’s time for a change of administration. Being nonpolitical, they don’t care who replaces Biden, as long as it’s someone else, and of course, don’t understand Duverger’s Law and the Electoral College and thus don’t see why it couldn’t be literally anyone else.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (4 children)

You're forgetting a decent subset. Ones who are informed but would rather vote 3rd party, which due to not having Teddy Roosevelt won't do shit, rather than vote for either of these guys

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago

Don't mistake this, he will now do anything and everything to win the election. It's his only chance of avoiding prison. Cornered rat and all that -- it's more important than ever to get out the vote.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Joe Biden only won by like 43,000 votes across swing states in the electoral college. This journey is not over

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's wild to think he's willing to potentially lose to a literal felon just to protect a genocidal right-wing zealot.

It would be the most final indictment of neoliberalism one could imagine.

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[–] PenisWenisGenius 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Do not underestimate how badly bigots want Trump to get rid of gays, transgenders and stoners.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Dem turnout is depressed and fascists are a hill of kicked ants. Its 2002 all over again.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

If the Biden campaign thought that hish payment felonies were going to cost Trump the election, then they haven't been paying attention for the last 10 years

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Maybe if Biden wasn't a piece of shit he could get more voters?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Brandon definitely has his game hat on. Doesn't matter what the distractions say or do. Get tf out and vote.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

...Did they just figure this out now?

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