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At the risk of sounding like a corporate shill: fucking duh? Who ever thought otherwise???
Netflix. Its how their business started. DVD rentals via mail.
Netflix. Its how their business started. DVD rentals via mail.
Nokia started as a paper mill company and sold toilet paper. With the release of the Nokia 9 PureView smartphone, nobody expected Nokia to release bog roll along with it.
I was going to make the same sort of metaphor with Nintendo until I looked it up and saw that they still produce playing cards 🙃
I almost did that too, until I remembered Pokemon and pivoted before posting.
Burn your own copy.
Data on a HDD or SSD (without DRM) is also physical media, and much more flexible. No need to expend more plastic locking data onto a dying format.
More like dead format. I haven't had a dvd player in my home for over a decade
I bet you still have an HDD or SSD somewhere though
Yeah, like a half dozen just lying around.
Why is this even a knock on Netflix? McDonald's doesn't serve steak and I don't think it's because McDonald's bad. Netflix is in the streaming business, not the physical media business. Look elsewhere if that's important to you?
Because they’re in the business of art and they’re perfectly happy to kill art if it doesn’t make business sense. There is a cultural cost to this stuff disappearing that isn’t comparable to the McRib going away.
They are in the business of streaming, and are making art to maintain a fresh library to stream. Just like broadcasters and movie theaters before them.
TV shows and movies on physical media was a huge change for those that required a shift in priorities that took decades and for phyiscal media to be profitable. Netflix is still making bank doing what they know how to do, which is streaming. Switching to physical media would need to be more reliably profitable for them than limiting it to streaming to encourage subs to make the switch.
I would prefer the physical media option too, but their reluctance is understandable.
Ok. But if they're footing the bill, that's their choice. The content creators don't need to go to Netflix for their funding, there are many other options.
Sure, and Netflix/HBO et all are still assholes for happily sending art to the glue factory when they think it makes financial sense. They deserve to be criticized for it.
"Sending art to the glue factory" is hyperbole, cmon. They're also not restricting anyone from releasing their own stuff their own way? If you want Netflix funding, you're going to be bound somewhat by their business, which is focused on streaming. Expecting a business to construct entire sectors to distribute art in the way you want is just... weird. Make your own fucking art with your own resources if you want to distribute it how you want.
No it’s not. See: Acme vs Coyote, Batgirl, and nearly 100 other things crushed by David Zaslav
So now we're talking about a completely different subject? Be mad at Netflix for canceling shows all you want, that's fine and righteous in a lot of cases. This article is about not producing physical media though, which is not sending art to the glue factory. You should stay on topic with the article instead of inflating your argument without even telling the people you're having a debate with to be about a subject none of us were even discussing?
I think the two are intertwined because without physical media there is no guarantee that media cannot just disappear like Spiderman at the end of Infinity War. Piracy is thankfully a safeguard to that but there’s still a conversation to be had about how easily media can just get black holed nowadays. Everyone’s busy talking about how they’re legally allowed to do that, I’m trying to say they’re morally wrong to disallow their content from physical releases. It’s also a bit ironic considering Netflix wouldn't exist if not for physical media.
Netflix and the other streamers represent a growing majority of new IP investment
If the trend continues, there would eventually be no new media produced in physical formats
Because there's no way to own that media that netflix has rights to. Currently, legally ~~buying~~ accessing any tv shows or movies digitally means the company who offered them to you can yank them away at any time, legally.
That's not ownership.
Physical media still isn't perfect, as it includes copy protection, but at least no one can legally take your BluRay away from you.
Okay. Don't consume that media? Artists are not forced into contracts with Netflix. They can do what thousands of artists did before Netflix ever existed. Will they hit the same level of audience that Netflix pulls? No. People like streaming and it's popular as hell. Why would they be entitled to that though? Artists, creators of any type really, have agency to do as they wish with their art. Consumers have a choice in the art they consume. If either chooses to engage with Netflix, why would it not be on the terms that Netflix has openly set and asked you whether you wanted to partake in?
I just do not understand this viewpoint and it's all over the thread. To be clear, Netflix does other stuff that sucks, like killing shows and underpaying artists. Be mad at them for that all you like, I'll be right there with ya. Insinuating Netflix is doing something ethically bad by pivoting to streaming, which the vast majority of the world's population would rather use than physical media, just does not make a lick of sense to me. Why should Netflix pay employees, rent factory space, set up an entire vertical they've gotten out of, just to produce CDs that history showed hardly anyone bought after the transition to streaming?
I mean, for as long as physical media even is a thing. Given where the control and money is I don't see physical media being a thing for much longer.
And Netflix isn't the one killing it, they're just following trends. We are killing physical media because we don't use or buy it.
I wouldn't mind like a store where you buy movies and music but you bring your own storage device, maybe 2 to get a safety backup in case something happens on the way home.
A business that connects to random people's usb drives all day? What could possibly go wrong!
Man's destroying my hopes and dreams here x'D
Nah jk, i seriously didn't think of the implications yet.
I mean... no shit? Netflix's business is not making good films or TV shows. It is getting people to sign up to Netflix and then forget about it for a few years.
It sucks because I very much prefer my media on blu-ray (and then on my plex server). And we are increasingly seeing media that is very much dependent on HDR and gets demolished by encoding and bandwidth limitations. But... that is more a "problem" of the creators not realizing their medium (similar to how a Nolan mix is perfect if you have a center channel but... most TVs and cell phones don't have one).
Flanagan made Hill House and Midnight Mass for Netflix. So it's not like there aren't at least some good shows.
It’s called rent seeking behaviour. It’s parasitic.