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For all your boycotting needs. I'm sure there's some mods caught in lemmy.ml's top 10 that are perfectly upstanding and reasonable people, my condolences for the cross-fire.

  1. [email protected] and [email protected]. Or of course communities that rule.
  2. [email protected]
  3. [email protected]. Quite small, plenty of more specific ones available. Also linux is inescapable on lemmy anyway :)
  4. [email protected]
  5. [email protected]
  6. [email protected] and maybe [email protected], lemmy.one itself seems to be up in the air. [email protected] says [email protected]. They really seem to be hiding even from another, those tinfoil hats :)
  7. [email protected]
  8. Seems like [email protected] and [email protected], various smaller comic-specifc communities as well as [email protected]
  9. [email protected]
  10. [email protected]

(Out of the loop? Here's a thread on lemmy.ml mods and their questionable behaviour)

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago (11 children)

OpenMW's official Lemmy community has been on lemmy.ml since 2021, way before lemmy.world existed (and most other instances, too), and way before there was any inter-instance drama. It's becoming increasingly likely that it's not going to be a suitable long-term home, but we'd be much happier if we could migrate the existing community rather than start from scratch with a new one. Is there any way to do that yet?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago (2 children)

IMO organizations should self-host their official communities. If you're going to move, it ought to be to something like [email protected].

In addition to the obvious benefits of having admin control/being able to avoid moderation drama imposed by others, it also means you could have more than one community: maybe !openmw for general discussion, plus !modding, !development, etc.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago

I had a look at your community, do you want to save post and comments?

If not, the easiest way is to announce on the current community where you are going to move, then lock it, so that people indeed move to the new one.

I did it from [email protected] to [email protected], it worked quite well.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 10 months ago

Ah yes Lemmy.world should be a giant monolith. Great defederation plan.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago (4 children)

There's also all of these communities on Reddit if you're truly unhappy that the volunteer owned and run social media you signed up for isn't being astroturfed with US-Israeli state press releases.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago (5 children)

We getting one of these a day now?

If you don't like it, petition your admins (via posts on your own instance) to defed.

If they don't want to, find a new instance that does, or stay and block their instance so you don't see their subs.

If you want to build up alternatives, post and comment so they're more active.

I just don't see the point of these posts when most Lemmy users have been around for a while and know what lemmy.ml is like by now.

Be the change you want to see, post in those communities yourself instead of these daily announcements threads on an instance that's already defederating apparently

[–] [email protected] 33 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Lemm.ee will not defederate over tankie mods, there's a specific policy. As to the change I want to see: Guess what I did just before I posted the list, go through all my subscription and clean it of lemmy.ml.

I very much doubt there's going to be one a day, these kinds of things tend to ebb and flow. Also it would've been much faster to ignore this thread than to reply.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

these daily announcements threads on an instance that’s already defederating apparently

Where has LW announced that they would be defederating?

If you want to build up alternatives, post and comment so they’re more active.

Which is what they are trying to achieve by promoting those communities in this post?

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The world news community on .ml is just Russian and Chinese propoganda.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

And .world is liberal amerikkkan bs then?

(not saying that either one is right btw)

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Clearly the American point of view is neutral, the default, and the truth, so it doesn't count as propaganda.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago (6 children)

The onslaught of fediverse karen posts about lemmy.ml continues.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Please dont use lemmy.world alternatives. World is a much bigger problem in terms of centralization.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Are you on [email protected]? That’s a topic we discuss quite often there

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Everyone should defederate from lemmy.world, the Reddit of Lemmy.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The views of .ml mods have not affected me. I don't really check my subscription feed, only /all or /top->day, therefor im still exposed to all those other communities.

The only instances that I've noticed are missing are porn related, and as an asexual, I don't have an interest in them. If I did, I could just visit a different site, like pornhub or w/e

Not all .ml users are tankies, or communist, or foss enthusiasts. I'm just a guy who likes memes and tech

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago (9 children)

The way that I see it, the issue with lemmy ml's administration and moderation is not quite political in origin. It's about transparency; and I think that this wall of text that I wrote about how lemmy dot ml handled ani.social shows it well, as the dispute in question was not political in nature. (I can abridge it at request.)

With that out of the way, most of your suggestions boil down to "use lemmy.world instead". I don't have anything against LW's administration, but I think that it's foolish to concentrate people and activity there even further, it defeats the point of a federation. That instance is already 40% of the MAUs, and hosts the largest comms using Lemmy.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Love seeing this happen. That shithole needs to be defederated. The mod logs are FULL of butthurt mods banning people over and o Ver again for violating the Don’t Post Shit We Don’t Like rule, or… “Rule 1” to everyone else.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (47 children)

It feels like .world is going to defederate soon, which will likely result in a multipolar Lemmy. Leftists and Leftist-aligned communities, and Liberals and Liberal-aligned communities, with hands-off communities like Lemm.ee being visible on either.

At this point, without any active Marxist communities, and defederating from almost all overtly Marxist instances, it is pretty obvious .world is anti-Marxist, so I doubt Marxists will stay with .world accounts.

Considering .world has a far less leniant defed policy it might just collapse on itself and the user base go back to Reddit, but that won't be a rapid process.

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