politics

Heart disease is one of the biggest causes of death in all age brackets.

For people 65 and older it is the leading cause of death.

Is it ageist to point out that statistic? Is it ageist to recommend that older people should see their doctor regularly, pay special attention to their cardiac health, eat right, get exercise, etc?

Of course all people should do those things, but since those older people are the ones who are most at risk of those issues, I think it's pretty reasonable to specifically target them with those messages.

Ageism would be if you refuse to hire someone who's over 65, or insure them, or allow them to do other things just because statistically people in their age bracket are more likely to randomly keel over dead of a heart attack, whether or not they themselves actually have any cardiac issues.

Same goes for voting. Americans in general vote in pretty sad numbers, but the numbers for young people are especially bad, even if our current young people are better at it than young people of previous generations, the numbers for them still are pretty bad.

Pointing that out, encouraging them to vote, talking about why that's the way it is, what it means for them and for the rest of us, etc. isn't ageist.

What could be considered a form of ageism, however, is that because they don't vote in as great of numbers, politicians don't pay attention to the needs and wants of younger people.

And unfortunately since we can't just flip a switch and make politicians and other voters grow a conscience and take those younger people into consideration when they're making decisions, the only way to address it is to actually get those younger people to vote and make their voices heard.

There's other issues at play, the way people talk about young people not voting and such can certainly contain some ageist language, not all of the takes on the issue are good ones, and the way people try to target their messaging to those younger people to encourage them to vote is often seriously lacking, tone deaf, and even offensive.

There's also the issue that the way voting and politics are handled in this country can often make it difficult for young people to get to the poles, be engaged in the process, etc, and there's certainly an argument to me made for that being an ageism issue.

But just making the core statement that young people don't vote in high enough numbers is not in and of itself against.

Circling around to the all lives matter comparison

Just as people of any age can die of heart disease, people of any race can be needlessly killed by police. However, in both examples, people of certain demographics are at significantly higher risk of those things occurring. Yes there's a lot of overlap between things that may get both a black guy and a white guy shot by cops, or that may lead to both a 20 year old and an 80 year old having a heart attack, and tackling those common issues is important, but there's also risk factors that significantly impact one demographic or the other and they need special attention. Black people have to deal with poor police training, mental illness, drug use, etc. same as white people, but they also have to deal with systemic racism on top of that and white people don't generally have to deal with that, and old people have congenital heart issues, environmental exposures, poor diet and exercise habits same as young people, but have additional health concerns due to their age on top of that which don't tend to affect young people. As they say a rising tide raises all ships, but some of those ships have issues besides just being stuck at low tide, and the rising tide isn't going to do anything to fix their leaky hull.

Which is why "all lives matter" is such a stupid statement, because if they truly think that all lives matter, they'd be happy to see those leaky ships getting patched up so they can take advantage of the tide rising for everyone.

So yes, it's an issue that Americans in general don't vote enough, but younger people especially don't vote enough, and so we need to be paying special attention to that issue to try to solve that and make sure their voices are heard. And saying that calling attention to that issue is ageist because other demographics also don't vote enough absolutely has the same kind of energy as pulling the "all lives matter" bullshit when people talk about black people being killed by police because "white people can get shot too." Both can be true, and we need to address both parts of those issues, but one demographic needs a little extra or at least a different kind of attention. We can't ignore the age-related health complications, the systemic racism, and the factors that lead to poor voter turnout amongst younger people just because those issues don't affect everyone, we have to address them alongside those other issues.

Simply mentioning a group doesn't automatically mean discrimination against that group.

What discrimination has been committed against 18-24 year olds because of this post? Was anyone fired? Injured? Killed? Kicked out of their housing? What's the actual harm you're upset about here?