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[–] [email protected] 67 points 7 months ago

I think this is what happens when mainstream political parties legitimise this kind of anti-immigrant rhetoric.

Everyone is pointing at social media, what about Sunak/Braverman/Patel? Not to mention the odious Farage.

I lay a lot of the blame at their feet.

And also - I realise it makes no sense (the perpetrator is British born!) but as has so often been said: You can’t reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into. So yeah, here we are. Madness.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I left Reddit to get away from all the racist wankers and their "legitimate concerns", and now they seem to be turning up here. Great.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Lemmy is small enough that blocking them individually is an effective strategy.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I agree but I rather worry that they’ll take over here as well because more people read this and are like „wtf I’m out“. That’s what happened with me on Reddit too. I was still lurking before the blackout but it was often already kinda bad.

However now if I look at Reddit it’s no different than Facebook or instagram because I assume many mods left, and I mean those who actually cared about their community vs being in power. I think it’s bad if these „opinions“ are here, even though they get downvoted to oblivion. They will just poison the discourse.

And don’t get me wrong, plurality of opinion is very important. But Nazi bots do not play by the rules, they do not contribute to said plurality, they want to destroy it and take over any space where people exchange opinions.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

I agree just blocking people isn't a good strategy long-term. Lemmy at least needs support for collaborative block lists.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I still remember what my grandfather who fought in WW2 told me: "You don't speak to nazis. You shoot nazis."

Times have changed, so I would be entirely happy with all the Nazis deported to Rwanda.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 7 months ago

Holy shit these early comments. Who the fuck rang the bell over at Racists R Us?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

It's bad faith. Mentioning facts to them is pointless, this is the result of allowing these assholes to recruit and organize for years.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Really? It's the far right they're worried about?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I know the far left also riots, but this time it's the far right...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I don't know anything about the situation. What should they be worried about?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

From what I've been hearing, a lot of groups that aren't exactly considered part of the traditional left/right political divide.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 26 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

English Defence League, bunch of Nazis.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (7 children)

It's funny how indigenous population who's scared about their wellbeing is called "far-right". Focus on stabbings, rapes and other pressing issues.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

indigenous population

Which ones are indigenous, the ones that came over with the Celts, the ones that came over with the Romans, the ones that came over with the Angles and Saxons, the ones that came over with the Norman French... or are we talking about the hunter-gatherers displaced by the Celts here? Do we need to test some DNA?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

What percentage of their DNA is from Homo Neanderthalensis?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Indigenous population scared about their wellbeing? Wellbeing from what? What possible threat has the indigenous population faced recently that you need to be all up in arms about it?

This is a report on Gov.uk

In 2022/23, white individuals accounted for 78% of arrests, 8% were of black individuals, 8% were of Asian individuals, 4% were of mixed ethnicity individuals and 2% were of other ethnicity individuals

In 2022, 77% of all males prosecuted for indictable offences were from the white ethnic group, compared to 86% of all females prosecuted

Since 2018, white defendants have had a consistently lower average custodial sentence length (ASCL) than all other ethnic groups combined for indictable offences.

Black prisoners served the greatest proportion of their original sentence in custody.

What is your point? What are you up in arms about exactly?

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago

When you're goose-stepping around town, do you have to keep a mouth guard just in your mouth the whole time, or do you discretely pocket it until the day inevitably turns on you? I've always wanted to know and never got to talk to an actual out-and-out fascist before. Ya know, you suspect some people, but you're just brave enough to come out and say it.

But seriously, leave lemmy and don't come back. Thanks!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It's rich coming from a country that used to colonize all across the world, displace and genocide indigenous people, exploit the country's resource, divide and conquering the people of their colony, and even deliberately causing famine. Even the decolonization aren't due to good will but simply running out of money. Now a lonewolf knife attack by an immigrant and they're bitching about their indigenous people's safety. My country were colonized by British and their divide and conquer tactic is still pretty much alive right now. Apologies for that, bitch.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

lonewolf knife attack by an immigrant

The dude wasn't an immigrant, he's from Wales.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Sorry i didn't catch much detail of the perpetrator from the news i read, but that make it even ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

I do love the British who have this "we colonized them and now they have the gall to come over here" attitude.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago

"scared about their well-being"

sure, buddy

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

Go back to reddit.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The police should be worried about them "fiery but mostly peaceful protestors", not anything that is labelled as "right wing".

[–] [email protected] 33 points 7 months ago

Ok, let's compare, shall we?

Millions of people out protesting over the murder of thousands of children in Gaza, and protesting the UK's complicity in those crimes by directly sending weapons to Israel. No crimes committed, no riots, no disorder. There were a couple who held up flags and inflammatory symbols or shouted crude slogans and they went peacefully when they were arrested.

Thousands of children murdered, peaceful protest.

In contrast, a far-right counter protest against the Palestine march in London ends with the thugs clashing with police, being violent and causing damage https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-far-right-football-hooligans-blamed-violence-pro-palestinian-march-london/

Recently, 3 girls brutally and abhorrently murdered in Southport, but EDL thugs who honestly couldn't care less about the victims and just wanted a scrap, took to the streets and torched police vehicles, injured many offers. The perpetrator ended up being a Christian, and yet the EDL mob went and targeted a mosque.

3 children murdered, outright anarchy.

EDL have proven that they're just in it for the fight. They just want blood and they don't care what the trigger is. Absolutely pathetic. They piss about in school, get bugger all in the way of grades and end up at the building site, blaming immigrants for their troubles. Spineless knobgobblers, the lot of them.

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