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You fucking dick head. Can't you people just not assault women? Is it that fucking hard?
Edit: and I get these are just allegations - innocent until proven guilty... But like damn dude. 3 women?
Three more women for a total of five, the way I read it. Original allegations arrived last month.
if someone had to sign an NDA, then that's pretty damn sketchy
jesus fucking christ does everyone have to turn out to be a fucking asshole?
My reaction as well. At least Terry Pratchett left us too early but he is not touched by any of this shit.
I meant it as him and Gaiman being friends.
Power is pretty corrupting and anyone who is a famous person (as in, public enough to maintain fame as opposed to just broad recognition) probably has a bit of an ego.
I mean your average normal person would be like "Don't idolise me, I'm just someone who writes books you like. Now please leave me alone" not posting on tumblr to adoring young fans.
i don't like to assume everyone famous or powerful is a rapey asshole. but the more time goes by, the less shocked i am when i hear about it
Your normal person would start out as "don't idolize me" but that much attention is in itself corrupting over time.
Enough people tell you, your shit doesn't stink, and eventually you believe them. From there it just gets worse.
oh god damn it.
whelp, there goes Season 3 of Good Omens.
and Sandman
Not going to lie, you know that Sandman episode/issue with writers kidnapping and raping the Muse?
I knew this was coming.
And Dead Boy Detectives season 2?
Damnit. This always sucks to hear but it sucks even more when it's someone who's work is (was) enjoyable.
The work can still be enjoyable - you can separate the art from the artist.
I don't enjoy supporting the artist even if the art is good and don't buy into this argument. If you support the art, the artist is still making money off of it. Unless they are dead I guess....
What is this?
A gentle nudge towards, let's say, alternative means of acquiring media to enjoy. One that, ironically enough, Neil Gaiman commended himself (under certain circumstances, of course). One that is still better than giving money to someone you don't want to support as a person or a creator.
Ahh gotcha. I thought that somehow the artist had been controversial and that this was an example of separating the art from the artist or something. I was thinking in the wrong direction, thanks.
Happy to help!
My new transition goal, duh
Fair, fair.
It's possible to enjoy the art without giving material support or publicity.
Books can be consumed without paying the author anything.
lol this argument just happened in a thread about jk rowling.
enjoy your rapist stories
I just read a super interesting book about this–Monsters by Claire Dederer. It won’t really give you answers, but a thought-provoking discussion on this subject I also struggle with.
On the ethereal plane, Sir Pterry is standing with his head bowed.
"I thought I knew him..." he laments.
Death puts his hand on his shoulder and says "IT'S OKAY, I STILL KNOW HIM."
The source to this reporting: https://www.tortoisemedia.com/2024/08/01/exclusive-two-more-women-accuse-neil-gaiman-of-sexual-assault-and-abuse/ (RS nags to subscribe and they don't)
Lets wait and see what comes out of it in court.
Imho, the accusation of woman that worked for him seems sketchy.
I dunno, five different women with very different stories really doesn't look good.
The existence of a prior NDA is never a good sign.
I don't know man, if I was a globally recognised author, there's might be quite a few reasons for NDA's besides sexual assault?
While Gaiman’s account denied any non-consensual sex with the two women, their allegations raised questions about whether he had reasonable belief in consent for sex with them given their vulnerability. Gaiman asked one of them to sign a non-disclosure agreement, the first of two known NDAs he signed with former sexual partners, suggesting weak confidence that his account would survive public scrutiny.
Celebrity marriages pretty much always have prenups with confidentiality agreements. Idk why celebrity sex relationships would be so different.
https://www.rgfamilylaw.com/blog/2022/may/can-an-nda-prevent-divorcing-spouses-from-dispar/
To be clear I'm not arguing he's innocent, I'll read the evidence and accounts. I just know when I personally listen to him narrating an audiobook, his hypnotic voice sometimes makes it feel almost like a sex crime.
But that isn't to be taken as me taking any actual sex crimes lightly. Just saying.
Why do they ALL have to be sleezebags?!!
Edit: Not sure why the link abstract says two. The article clearly says three.
One of my pastimes is comparing the article slug (the part of the web address that includes the title of said article) with what actually got published. It's usually a first draft of the title, but sometimes it reveals corrections. ...And sometimes you get to see someone saying the quiet parts out loud.
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https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/neil-gaiman-two-more-women-allege-sexual-assault-1235073080/
Sometimes I feel like my gender needs to be purged
An old friend's favourite story about Neil gaiman is how he asked a question during a book signing and NG apparently came over the table at him.
Now I have a guess as to the question!