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[–] [email protected] 188 points 9 months ago (9 children)

it's because of a new strategy used by sellers on Amazon to flip their product pages to different products. I've seen this before in the reviews how the reviewers will review a product that's kind of like what I am trying to order, but slightly different model or something

[–] [email protected] 81 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Yeah if you go deep enough on an item there’s a good chance you’ll find that it was once something else.

Sellers don’t want to start over with reviews so they just take a retired product entry and change the pictures and item.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Some drill bits I bought got turned into or was previously a pair of Bluetooth earbuds

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

found a hard drive that apparently was clock oil for grandfather clocks. was a fake drive a client bought, which is why I dug into it, was weird.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Add this to the list of reasons not to shop at Amazon.

Seriously, I only shop there unless I can't find something anywhere better, and even then I ask myself just how much I want or need this item. Very similar policy to the one I have regarding Walmart.

On a related note, I would say "Fuck Walmart with a rusty spoon", but I figure that would be a massive insult to the rusty spoon.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 9 months ago (3 children)

That’s dastardly. Amazon needs to be burned to the ground like it’s waningly verdant namesake

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (1 children)

In case anyone is interested, Amazon has headquarters in Seattle, Washington and Crystal City, Virginia. They also have data centers in Ashburn, Virginia, Portland, Oregon, and Oakland, California. There's more, obviously, but those are the ones I have ideas on the location of. The data centers are harder to find. For those you'll likely need a contact to help you. Your allies will be Amazon employees and meter checkers. You'll be looking for a building with MASSIVE power draw. And hey. Even if you don't find an Amazon data center, it's still good to find buildings with massive power draws because... Well... That's the worst thing these companies are doing

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Us-east-1 will go down all my itself thank you and please 🙏

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Whatever you do don't use bucket replication and lambdas to push a massive number of small objects into one bucket that then blows up another bucket

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

First time I’ve seen someone mention that one by name. Fuck that data center.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Let just put SSO all in one place? That's cool with everyone, right? Right guys?... Yeahhhhh

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Don’t forget to make it the default on everything, especially IoT!

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

That was the best day ever when it went down a few years ago while I was doing an install of an Amazon site. They have some "test" software that we have to run to validate the system and it was completely down. Still got some things done that day, but it was utterly hilarious to watch all of the Amazon personnel run around in a panic for a few hours. Fucking Prime trucks stuck on the side of the road with no instructions on what to do next. Utterly precious.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It's technically against their tos to change the product. But sellers are shady assholes.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There's no way Amazon is powerless to stop sellers from doing this. They just don't care.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Never said they were powerless. Just that it's against the tos.

Is you report them, sometimes Amazon does something about it. Sometimes.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's super easy to detect change of product category and a bunch of other similar major changes. Especially now with ML classifiers, it's even easier. They could automatically lock the page and require review

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

But that could affect profits! 😱

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago

As long as they keep making buckets of cash, they won't stop.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

hardly something 'new', it's been going on for years and years.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Yep, at least ten years ago I went to reorder some electric toothbrush heads, went to my past purchases to find the same ones, only to see the listing (with my review for the brush heads still there) had a completely different product.

December will be my 4 year Amazon-free anniversary. Screw that site.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

I report these through the seller portal (even though I'm not a seller). Most of the time they get taken down.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Fakespot is great at catching these. It’ll give a really low score to products whose reviews don’t appear to have anything to do with the listing.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

I am the one that posted the question on that product, the answer came the next day. And I can confirm from having gotten the emails asking for answers to questions in the past that the email asking the question provides you an image of the item and description so even if the listing had been flipped it should have not shown them the dash cam in the email asking the question.

But yes sellers do like to do that to make reviews look good, he have to be careful to actually read the reviews to look for someone describing the product to make sure it matches

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Preventing this is one of the few good usecases I've seen for LLMs. An llm could tell if an edit is an update or a whole new product pretty easily

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Or the reviews from last year include pictures of products that are completely different.

They keep the high star rating from the previous product on whatever garbage they're selling now.

[–] [email protected] 82 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Others have said this but, that's because the merchant has changed the item listed. I don't believe Amazon should even allow this as a possibility but it does so because they allow it sellers will regularly put an item they know will rate really well out for a few months to get a lot of high rating, and then they'll swap it out for an item that is either something else they want to sell that usually doesn't sell as often or something that's a little lower quality but because they had the old item first all of the reviews for the old item is now stacked onto the new item which makes it look better than it actually is

On top of this, Amazon is able to remember what you purchased in the past so when it gives you those notices it doesn't give you the current information on the item it gives you the information that provided when the item was purchased, so for example if you asked a question on the item, using what they received they're probably thinking that you're the dumb one because they likely got an email showing a dash camera with the same question

[–] [email protected] 43 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm in the market for a honing guide for chisels and plane irons. I bought a cheap one, and the little feature it has to grip the sides of chisels wasn't big enough for my chisel to fit in it.

I found a model I thought I liked on Amazon, but there was no spec on the thickness of chisel it could grip. I asked a question, "How thick of a chisel does this hold? NOT the width, the THICKNESS" Two answers, 1. "i dont know" and 2. 1/8" - 2 1/4" (which was the numbers for the chisel WIDTH spec'd in the ad.)

When someone asks a question like that, it doesn't seem to go to the seller, it goes to other customers. People get a question in their email. And a lot of them are shitheels who will dutifully answer "I don't know." Or they have the reading comprehension skills of the average hagfish.

I don't think the users are the problem in the image though; I think it's the seller's fault.

Amazon has a feature where you can list for sale different permutations of the same item. Say you sell anal lube in 1 oz, 2.5 oz, 8 oz, 16 oz and 55 gallon packages, instead of creating an independent listing for each, you can have one listing with 5 variants. These can have different pictures or descriptions so customers can see and read about the differences, but it's supposed to be broadly the same product so they share a question and review section.

If the seller is too ignorant or apathetic, they'll list completely unrelated products under the same listing as different variants. There may be a theme, like "grooming supplies" so they'll have a hair dryer, a beard trimmer, an electric toothbrush and a rectum bleacher listed as variants of the same product. Or it'll just be whatever was on the truck from Shenzhen this week, hence the purchaser of a dash cam getting a question about an air filter.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Only 55 gallons!!, how am I supposed to fill my pool with that little lube!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Makes me want to post in some Ask Lemmy community.

"Perverts of Lemmy, have any of you actually bought an industrial drum of sex gel on Amazon? How did it go?"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Some people need a LOT of lube.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Don't forget the rectum bleacher! You've gotta whiten up all your pearly bits when grooming personally with these here personal grooming products! From teeth whiteners to skin toners, nipple brighteners and our ever-popular melanin relaxers, they're all conveniently listed in this one incredibly inconvenient list! No matter which parts of your body, which orifices, which end of your digestive tract you reeeally want to whiten up: Lighten Up, We've Got You (Un)Covered!®

[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 months ago

i hate it when i order a dashcam and i get an air purifier

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago

Is it not well known by now that settlers and scammers do this on Amazon? They build up positive reviews with a different product and then change the product listing so it looks like the new item has loads of good reviews. This listing probably was for a dashcam when that user bought it.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago

I just watched a Louis Rossman video about this (fake reviews), you should check it out.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So, while in the end it's still not the sharpest tools in the shed writing those, the questions are often forwarded to your email by Amazon and will very much include a call-to-action. People are made to feel like Amazon or even some other customer is specifically asking for their thoughts, so they will respond just to be polite. It isn't immediately clear in these emails that the answer will be put up on the listing forever.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Oh wow I didn't know that. That makes it make a lot more sense.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I think they may be dialing it back, but I got one as recently as two years ago. Here's some random internet user's emailed question from after Amazon mercifully added the "I don't know" button.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The Joke aside, if this was genuinely your question the air is pulled in from the front and the clean air exits around the edges. I was looking for a wall mountable air purifier myself like a month ago and came across a few of these

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

All edges or just the left right? I've got really limited space so want to avoid just blowing air into a wall lol

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