How many people did they kill this time, in order to recover dead bodies?
Last time, they killed 120-somehing Palestinian civilians to save 2 Israeli hostages and the time before that, they killed over 100 to retrieve dead bodies.
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Hey I have an idea. How about all hostages get freed so civilian lives aren't imperilled.
Do you mean including the Palestinians held hostage in Israeli military prisons being physically, psychologically, and sexually tortured after being "arrested" on false or no charges?
Because there's literally hundreds of times as many of THOSE hostages than Israeli ones.
Also, you're BEYOND gullible if I think Israel won't continue murdering Palestinian civilians after they've gotten the hostages. That's not what it's about.
Murdering or driving away every single Gazan so they can steal more land has always been the purpose. October 7th and the hostages are just convenient excuses for them to commit the war crimes they already wanted to.
You think Palestinian lives weren't being threatened and taken by Israeli violence before October 7?
Clearly, that is exactly what I said and isn't a Straw Man at all
Isreal was indiscriminately bombing and taking land before October 7th, all they are just more active now. The violence will only stop if Isreal gives back all the land and gives Palestinians full autonomy. Hamas are murderous assholes, but they weren't created in a vacuum. In fact Hamas is directly supported and funded by the IDF so the only true victims in this conflict are the Palestinians civilians and the non zionest Israelis
This is the only thing I disagree with in your statement:
The violence will only stop if Isreal gives back all the land and gives Palestinians full autonomy
Oh with no explanation as to why you think that?
For a non-exhaustive list of the ways the violence can end see my previous comments above, or consider peace can be achieved through victory as well.
Victory? Like the extermination of all Palestinian people? Cuz that's the only way the IDF will consider victory
That, or Hamas exterminates Israel.
That's not an true option. You can never exterminate a group of people without starting ww3
So Palestinians aren't being genocided, or we're in WW3?
They are being genocided. But if history has taught us anything is impossible to kill everyone. Doesn't mean it's still not genicidal.
How about Israel to fuck off from Palestine so nobody's life is taken away?
Why where the hostages surrounded by 120 civilians? At what point is a civilian not a civilian anymore? If he has hostages at home? Were there any non-civilians?
Why where the hostages surrounded by 120 civilians
Because Gaza is one of the densest urban areas in the world. When you level an apartment complex, you're GOING to kill innocent people. Especially if you, like the Israeli government, consider all Palestinians Hamas and therefore do nothing to limit civilian casualties.
"Why do you make us do this! Oh woe to me, there is no other way to get these hostages other than to bomb a populated area. What else am I to do? pushes button How terrible that you made me do that! ...now, I wonder how soon we can get some settlers over here."
Because Gaza is the most densely packet place on earth. You can literally run the langth of Gaza in an afternoon and the width of it in a lunch break. Not excusing anything Hamas did/does but where are the civilians to fucking go?
I wonder if this was some concession by Hamas as part of the negotiations
Israel’s military said its forces recovered the six bodies of hostages in an overnight operation in southern Gaza, saying they were killed during a time that troops were operating in Khan Younis. Hamas says some captives have been killed in Israeli airstrikes, though returning hostages have talked about difficult conditions in captivity, including lack of food or medications.
Doesn't look like it
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