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[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 53 points 7 months ago (2 children)

We don't have free speech anymore. There is clearly one side of the issue completely pushed while the other side is silenced. That's downright facism, no matter in what pretty argument you wrap it.

[–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

Believe it or not, by most definitions, suppression of free speech is not (directly) a tenet of fascism.

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Every campus has a designated area in the center that can and is used for providing any opinions on any subjects. And it is used by everyone else.

SJC went a step further and impaired students who pay thousands to get education and have nothing to do with the conflict.

This is not cool. I already graduated, but if I was a student right now I would be livid if that was happening. Not only I can't stop Netanyahu from bombing civilians neither can my university.

They did not accomplish anything except bringing more hate towards the cause.

BTW: I'm not a Jew, never been in Israel or anywhere in the Middle East, I'm also not a Republican. I completely don't support Hamas and what happened on 10/7 and also believe Netanyahu and his government are murderers. To me we essentially we have two sides, each trying to wipe out the other and innocent people trapped in between.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 25 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"protest is only ok when it's in the corner over there where it won't disrupt anything"

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Why not setup a protest in your home? It will equally bring awareness to the issue.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Not only I can’t stop Netanyahu from bombing civilians neither can my university.

This would be a marginally relevant complaint if the protesters were trying to make their university stop the bombing rather than divest from Israel in response to the bombings.

To me we essentially we have two sides, each trying to wipe out the other and innocent people trapped in between.

And one of them has the means to do so, is supported by our country, and is currently doing so. This is an "All Lives Matter" stance. Yeah, sure, they matter and everyone deserves to live in peace, but you're just saying that to muddy the waters in response to people talking about the lives that actually are being exterminated. Pablum aside, you very clearly have a side.

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Many universities promised that, yet the protests didn't stop.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 3 points 7 months ago

Which one? Because the universities that made deals had their encampments disband, and they weren't even promising to divest, just look into it. Never mind that you're just casually moving on from your whole point being false. I have little faith this new misdirection is actually true.

I'm not giving you any more leeway. You're not acting like someone who's just stuck in the middle in an ugly world. You very clearly have a side and will make false statements to support it. Acknowledge your original complaint was full of shit first, then maybe I'll address whatever your next misdirection is.

[–] PoopDelivery@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

"This is not cool. I already graduated, but if I was a student right now I would be livid if that was happening. Not only I can't stop Netanyahu from bombing civilians neither can my university."

And a lot of students would join the protests. Like, sorry being made aware of an active genocide on your way to class was annoying to you. What the fuck? People are being raped and murdered by a state that has complete control over them while you have the privilege of going to college.

No one expects you or your university to stop this, that's why people protest, so that people who do have that level of influence are made to do something.

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

What about other genocides happening right now? Why does no one care about them?

Yes, this one is special, but it is special, because here both sides want to wipe each other out. Israel just has an advantage right now, but in 1947 was the reverse.

[–] PoopDelivery@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago

Non shitbags care about all genocides. This one happens to have the genociders being openly backed by the US. We're not talking about 70 years ago.

[–] zerog_bandit@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

"Waaaaahhhhhh why won't they let me call for the destruction of Israel in peace??????? :( :( :("

[–] MediaBiasFactChecker@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The news source of this post could not be identified. Please check the source yourself. Media Bias Fact Check | bot support

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The fact that this non-message is getting upvoted is pretty strong evidence that any support for this bot is manufactured and astroturfed. Why else would an error message get upvotes?

[–] threeduck@aussie.zone 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Oh I upvoted it because I'd never seen the bot before, and liked the idea (even though it didn't work here). I have the mediafactcheck add-on which simply shows a websites bias in my Firefox toolbar, I think it's a good idea to have media bias constantly in the public eye.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

This stupid dude considers the Associated Press and Reuters to be leftist. Don’t listen to his stupid propaganda. And yes, MBFC is just one dude’s opinion.

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 7 points 7 months ago

Harassing trans, jewish and muslim people is free speech but dissagreeing isnt

[–] CptEnder@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

Uhh why try to ban masks? That's ridiculous and against CDC guidelines.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

good. most of the protests are outside groups who just disrupt the learning process for students and are just looking to cause discord and strife. they can still protest elsewhere they're not entitled to a platform.