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[–] [email protected] 177 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Stop treating these fucks with kid gloves for fucks sake. Press the goddamn charges! Quit being fearful of retaliation because that is exactly what the rapist and his cult want. This is frustrating.

[–] [email protected] 145 points 7 months ago (3 children)

The problem is that as a random cemetery worker who can't afford bodyguards 24/7, pressing charges stands a significant chance of getting you killed.

[–] [email protected] 85 points 7 months ago (4 children)

And doing nothing only emboldens them.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 7 months ago (1 children)

For sure. But as an individual, it makes a lot of sense to hide instead of fight.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 7 months ago (3 children)

As does the system of nothing happening to people like Trump, while also allowing him to use his platform to target his cult on his new "enemy". We need a system that will treat a former president accused of assault the same way the cops would respond to an alleged assault with a minority involved.

Until the system is actually going to work for the victim instead of caring about the optics of the assailant (or their "help"), I don't blame this woman for not wanting to put a target on herself for just doing her job and protecting the privacy/dignity of fallen soldiers and their families.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Why the fuck can't the police place charges anyway? Here in Canada any assault charge is automatic, it doesn't require the victim to do anything. Is that not true in the US?

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (3 children)

You would sacrifice your life or your family to teach Trump a lesson?

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 7 months ago

Man, fuck stochastic terrorism.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

What a shame the assassin missed.

There would undoubtedly be fallout, but the public really needs to remember that we are the ones allowing democracy to be shit on and destroyed in front of our eyes as Media across the country only cares about engagement.

It turns out letting America be held hostage by Fascists makes for good TV, and the 6 people who own almost every media outlet never forgot how great enslaved populations were for their bottom line.

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[–] [email protected] 92 points 7 months ago

And so, the brown shirts are making them think twice. What a sad day for America as domestic terrorism wins.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 7 months ago

Makes sense, Trump’s cult will come after you and will literally send you death threats.

Fucking USSR-level shit.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Moral of the story is that terrorism works. Remember this once voting no longer does.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 7 months ago (2 children)

We have to stand up to fascists even when they threaten us with violence otherwise the fascists win. There is no sign up sheet to stop fascism. There is no safe way to stand against fascists. There is no future worth living in under fascist rule. Fascists do not go away if the society that spawned them stays the same.

If threats to someone's safety is where we decide our resistance to fascism ends that is where our freedoms end. We do not have to shame this woman, but we do have to disagree with her decision. If we allow her decision to be incorrectly labeled as a reasonable strategy for self-preservation then we will all be living in a christo-fascist dictatorship.

It's liberty or death. That idea is one of the last remaining cornerstones of our democracy. If living is more valuable to use than freedom then we will be incapable of stopping the fascists.

Fascism proceeds one step at a time. One day you wake up and everything is different. Today is that day. The people saying to stand up to fascists got it right. The people calling them armchair warriors and telling people to choose life over liberty lost the plot. The fascists plan is to take power by any means necessary and then kill the people they hate indiscriminately. To stop them we must stand against them even if that means risking death.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Snowden and Assange did that and look how that worked out.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Trump and the MAGA movement are the fascists. Snowden and Assange didn't stand against them. In fact, what happened to them is very likely to happen to lots of people if the fascists take power.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Sorry, but some guy threatened another driver with a pipe in front of 10 cars in front of my house, and I was the only one to step in and I'm the only reason the situation didn't escalate. And the only reason I can think of why I did so, is that I don't have much to lose in practice.

It's scary to intervene and despite your pandering, I suspect you've never been in a situation where you have to choose to put your life in danger (I've also done mountaineering/glacier travel and got a pilot licence which really opened my eyes up too).

It's easy for you to disrespect her gracefully and talk crap when you've never been in a dangerous situation where you can choose to make a difference that might screw you permanently.

There are a million things that will run through your mind when you yourself are (ie, you will likely be advised by people that you could be in danger, etc). When the situation is outside of your control, you think differently.

You might disagree with her, but she has every right to protect herself. And she has every right to make that decision.

If I was in the same situation and my family was in danger, I'd make the same decision too.

It's not because she wouldn't want to do it, but, the decision may have been made to protect her family.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So it's not illegal then, seeing as there are no consequences for doing it.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It's illegal for Democrats.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Isn't having knowledge of a felony enough for a public prosecutor to indict someone independent of the victim?

That's how it works in Germany at least - if the authorities get information about a criminal offense, they are obliged to start a criminal investigation. A victim not pressing charges only matters in terms of a civil lawsuit.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

In the UK, you can't decide whether to 'press charges' or not, the decision is the CPS's.

But in practice, saying you aren't interested in pursuing a conviction often ends it, because:

1 - the prosecution must be 'in the public good' which is undermined if the victim isn't interested

2 - a lot of the time the testimony and cooperation of the victim is key to the prosecution case

3 - the system is horribly underfunded so if they can justify dropping it they will

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Trump is a cunt and anybody who ever voted for him is a cunt.

I know it's obvious and everybody already knows it but I saw his abortion of a face on my feed so now you have to hear it again.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Don’t disservice abortions by comparing them to Trump. Abortions save lives, Trump doesn’t.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 7 months ago (4 children)

I would press charges. This just shows bullying works.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 7 months ago

This is how fascists win, by being free from consequences.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This is why it works

They really can ruin your life; ask Michael Cohen or Gabby Giffords

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

Paul Pelosi or Gretchen Whitmer likely have something to say on the matter as well.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I still don’t understand why any human but the worst would even consider voting for this maggot.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

Bullies and thier wannabes.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

All it takes for evil men to triumph...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

The silent fear of Trump and his cultists strikes again. It is one of things he does a lot where people know how deranged his base is and don't want to hold him accountable.

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