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PS5 Pro Leak Reveals Alleged Name and Design of the Console, so judging by this ps6 will release on 2028 (www.ign.com)

submitted 8 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I don't understand why they would release a PS5 Pro. For the PS4 / Xbox One generation, it was somewhat justified because 4K TV became widely available and desirable shortly after the release of this generation, making the consoles almost obsolete.

This time around, I don't see the performance of theses consoles as a big problem. Interest has declined because prices of consoles and games are high, and there are not that many exiting games to play on them.

Making a more powerful variant has some disadvantages too, making game development more complex to support all variants. Microsoft has already suffered from this strategy with the Xbox series X/S.l, e.g:with BG3 local multiplayer

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

*Exciting

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The problem with Xbox is that Microsoft requires parity with both consoles, so the more powerful X constantly gets gimped because the S can't handle something. With the PS5 and Pro this probably wouldn't be the case since games aren't gutted because of a less powerful model requiring parity, so they can just add some higher graphical fidelity to the Pro

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

It's it the same problem tho? Xbox S/X can also target different graphics (resolution, frame rate, quality) but feature parity is required.

Would anyone be ok with, for example, split screen multiplayer mode available only on PS5 Pro, but not on PS5 nor PS5 slim?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

They have to have graphics feature parody. So if you have Ray Tracy on the x you have to put it on the s, if you have complex shadows are lighting on the s you also have to put it on the x.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

The difference is how low spec the series S is.

Something like Baldurs Gate 3 on existing PS5 was able to handle everything they needed including the split screen co-op. However, they couldn’t release on Xbox at all because they couldn’t make a version that worked on both S and X but also they weren’t allowed by MS rules to pull features from the S.

A PS5/PS5-Pro pair would be easier since the bottom spec is still about comparable to the Series X and the new tier is just a bit extra for some nice-to-haves and less having to handicap a game to get it to run on the low spec machine. It’s still extra work but shouldn’t mean having to rework an entire game to get it to work at all.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago

Sony seems really determined to include as many dust gathering nooks and crannies as possible on these things.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Is a pro really necessary? No. Silly Playstation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Now you can play no games with shorter loading times.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Or perhaps sooner depends on how desperate sony gets or how soon outdated ps5 gets

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Outdated?

The biggest complaint I see is that not enough games are utilizing any of its features yet.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Yeah but some games like Final Fantasy run at 30 FPS capped and they suck.

They should start moving those games from fixed 30 FPS to a higher FPS. Doesn't even need to be fixed 60 FPS. If they enable VRR between 30 and 60/120 they will massively improve the experience.

I understand that some TVs can run VRR down to 20 or 30Hz.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's not because of the hardware.

It's because the developers made a horseshit design choice to go over the top on graphics to specifically target 30FPS. Multiply the power by 10 and tell them everyone has that and they'll do the same thing, diminishing returns be damned.

That said, PlayStation has, and has convinced most developers to use, performance options to choose between graphics and frame rate.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

FF16 in quality mode runs at 1440p 30 FPS locked upscaled to 4K. And it decreases resolution sometimes in my experience while playing it.

And in performance mode runs at 1080p targeting 60 FPS. The lower resolution it's very noticeable.

Both modes can be improved by better hardware. That's my point.

Now things like "30 FPS locked, sucks" or performance mode targeting 1080p is not enough quality is just my personal opinion. Of course some people enjoy 30 FPS or 1080p on a 4K big TV. I personally try to avoid 30 fps locks OR very low resolution performance modes. Games like GT7 or Warzone that can handle lot of FPS at a high resolution (on the current PS5 hardware) are the ones I don't complain at all and truly enjoy. And in those 2 games I wouldn't care about upgrading to better PS hardware.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

They're not going to be meaningfully improved by an APU, which is the whole point of a console.

If you want to use a $2K GPU to play games, do that. But PS5's power is perfectly fine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Wait, which FF runs only at 30fps? The last two (16 and rebirth) have performance modes like has become the standard this generation.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think the point here was if you're going to give the console a boost you shouldn't have to choose between better graphics and better performance anymore to make it worthwhile (that's how I read it anyway).

Both 16 and Rebirth do have a performance mode you can use but if you want the prettier graphics you're stuck at 30fps.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I mean, I agree that I’d rather have 60fps be the standard with the better graphics.

But that’s the argument that the other person should have made rather than “they are locked at 30 and they suck” since technically that’s not true (on either counts if you enjoyed the games).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Fair enough. And both games are still gorgeous even in performance mode. Rebirth's biggest problem is the same problem Hollywood currently insists on, media that's being broken up into multiple parts 😂 I want the end of the story dammit!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah for real.

Just gotta wait another couple years. In the meantime, I guess I’m getting all my FF14 jobs to level 100.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I wish you the best of luck on that grind, but I just can't do it 😅 I've got one job from each role at 100 for role quests and that's enough for me at the moment.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I’ve done that as well, myself.

I already have every job to at least 60, and several to at least 90, so fortunately I’m not starting from scratch. But it’ll be a journey.

I have realized, though, that I’ll be able to get at least one mount from centurio seals from doing the level 60 hunts. I didn’t know about that until I started.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

FF16. I'm talking about running quality mode (which still doesn't guarantee native 4K it does upscaling lot of the time) at higher FPS than 30 with a better PS5 Pro hardware.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Uh I didn't even buy any of these generation console....

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Same, I'm not sold on any of it. And the next generation is going to lean into LLMs, I bet. No thanks.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

I gave up on play station when they required paid multiplayer

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don't think that's gonna make them postpone releasing a new generation, bud

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

… this name isn’t polish enough to be the real Noodle Jetski

Or am I wrong doc?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

bery brave hassumption, hmate

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

… something something Ramch dressing

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Desperate about what? It has a many room for price cut to boost sales. All playstation consoles was release 6 or 7 years after the last, i don't see why it will be different this time