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[–] Plavatos@sh.itjust.works 171 points 7 months ago (31 children)

I don't think it bodes well she sat with Putin at a conference, whether there was "language barriers" or not.

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 108 points 7 months ago

Oh come on, she had another American there to make sure nothing fishy was going on. The always beyond reproach Michael Flynn.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 60 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Putin obviously could give two shits about the planet. He just knew that she’d pull more votes from Clinton than Trump.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/russians-launched-pro-jill-stein-social-media-blitz-help-trump-n951166

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[–] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Flynn pisses me off so much, it amazes me you can spend your entire career serving your country in mostly a leadership role and still end up a traitor.

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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 127 points 7 months ago (21 children)

Putin owns this lady. You're a dumb, bad, selfish person, Jill.

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[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 120 points 7 months ago (17 children)

Look, whatever you think of Jill Stein, she can only be a threat to democrats because they are vulnerable to arguments from the left. If you don't want to be vulnerable from the left, adopt some of their popular ideas. Putin isn't tricking Americans into being anti genocide, or into wanting universal health care.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 35 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (30 children)

She can only be a threat to democrats in a first past the post voting system.

The Green party doesn't run on its policies. They've opposed nuclear for decades, and we'd be having a very different conversation about global warming if they hadn't basically won there. They have opposed WiFi and cell phone radiation as "cancer causing", and have supported homeopathy. If they ran on their policies, they would find a dwindling number of people on the left who actually support them, because they're vestigial loons concocted in a 1960s hippie lab.

The Green party runs on being the only party on the left that's bigger than almost nothing. That's it, that's all they do.

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[–] splonglo@lemmy.world 34 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Kamala and Walz are more left-leaning than any dem ticket in ages. If the purpose of the Green party is to move the democrats left, then they should drop out to reward them for moving left.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 23 points 7 months ago (11 children)

Why would they stop now in that case? "More left-leaning than any dem ticket in ages" is not a very high bar. Shit, it's so low, you can't even slip "opposes genocide" under it!

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[–] BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world 20 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Pro-fracking, pro having a fascist in their Cabinet, pro-war profiteering even during a genocide, and you call it the most left-leaning ticket in ages? I hate that I have to agree, but I don't think it's as strong of a point as you'd like it to be.

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[–] archomrade@midwest.social 30 points 7 months ago (4 children)

If the democrats weren't insisting on holding water for Israel's genocide, the green party wouldn't even be a nuisance to them.

Say whatever you want about how crazy they are, but the one issue the democrats are actually hurting from is their genocide support. If for no other reason than to push the dems to change that policy I think the greens are a huge benefit.

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[–] makyo@lemmy.world 24 points 7 months ago (16 children)

I know there are plenty of arguments to hit the dems on from the left. However, most of the attacks I'm privy to seem to be more about establishing leftist cred than actually doing something productive, and Jill Stein is one of the best examples of this.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 103 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Wonder where Stein’s money comes from right before elections.

Some people are asking.

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[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 101 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The green party aka the gop distraction party.

[–] Soup@lemmy.cafe 51 points 7 months ago (5 children)

I can’t believe people STILL can’t see them for who they are.

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[–] graeghos_714@lemmy.world 29 points 7 months ago (26 children)

If we had a normal election I'd be voting 3rd party because of the Dem's unwavering support for Israel with a genocide happening there. Unfortunately our choice is like choosing between a shit sandwich or pureed cauliflower for dinner. Pureed cauliflower sounds disgusting but when so many people are going to choose the shit sandwich I better vote for Cauliflower so I don't eat shit

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[–] SirDerpy@lemmy.world 27 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

AOC states that Jill Stein somehow leads the most decentralized political party in the US, does so from a position that holds nearly zero organizational authority, and that their primary electoral goals are anything other than Secretary of State to ensure fair treatment in ballot access. Stein wasn't even the nominee last cycle.

AOC is not ignorant. She's sold her principles to neoliberals.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.ml 21 points 7 months ago (3 children)

This is 100% about them feeling entitled to the Muslim vote and Jill being tied with Harris in polling. The fraud AOC is lashing out because someone is legitimately a threat to them staying in power.

This is the bed Harris decided to make for herself, and if she loses it will be her fault.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 90 points 7 months ago (14 children)

Jill being tied with Harris in polling

LMAO

[–] HoustonHenry@lemmy.world 52 points 7 months ago

The more you read, the funnier it gets 🤣 what a mook

[–] brognak@lemm.ee 50 points 7 months ago (1 children)

See also:

legitimately a threat

LMAO

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 30 points 7 months ago

The same way Nader was a threat to Gore.

And that seemed to work out well for everyone.

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[–] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 41 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (46 children)

I'd like to see your source on that polling data, champ. Also, it's so funny you fucks turned against AOC.

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 37 points 7 months ago (26 children)

Yeah, right? AOC is a bad ass until her party is suddenly unfavorable because some of them but not her aren’t supporting Gaza hard enough. But unsurprisingly, none of these people ever complain about Uyghur genocide—the other Muslims.

It’s easy for Jill to be hard on this topic because she knows the presidency is out of her reach. But AOC is still in play, and sadly—in the actual world we live in—she has to play the game to win.

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[–] gatorgato@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

She's also tied with Hugh Janus in polls. It was a real official poll. My source is Trust Me. I am not a troll.

Adding /s

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[–] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 21 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (19 children)

democracy enjoyers when people vote for parties that best represent their interests: 😡😡😡😡😡😡

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