I think horror or gore should go to NSFL rather than moving porn off NSFW. NSFW had traditionally meant porn where NSFL has meant gore, there just hasn't been a separate NSFL tag because that type of content has been discouraged and giving it it's own tag could be seen as legitimizing it.
this post was submitted on 05 Sep 2023
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Horror doesn't mean gore and people use the nsfw tag for things other than porn, gore or horror too.
Horror should still be nsfl
I totally agree with @Lojcs@lemm.ee (damn you scrolling comment setting)👆
@Lojcs@lemm.ee
The tags are currently worked on, if you want to say something to make a change, write there.
https://github.com/Neshura87/Lemmy-RFC
Github issue that started the tags conversation. https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/317
I don't think tags would be a solution as they wouldn't be standard threadiverse-wide. Also porn communities would want to mark their posts with specifying tags like every other community does instead of a generic porn tag.
What's needed is expansion of the nsfw mark into subcategories
there is proposal for three types of tags: NSFW, spoiler and generic. NSFW and spoiler will blur the images, and generic tags are for content categorization. NSFW and spoiler tags should have the same behavior on lemmy. kbin dev will want to make parity change for his feature.
I still don't think it'd be enough to leave nsfw tag creation to communities. Even if a porn community created multiple tags under nsfw to classify their posts that would do nothing to help people block all porn on the platform. Porn, gore etc need to be their own tag types under the general nsfw type.
I would recommend you read the request for comment made by Neshura87, there he explained that it won't work like that. nsfw and spoiler tags are embedded into lemmy software.
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We need parent and child tags. If we can create a parent 'porn' tag and a child 'hentai' tag nested, then people can block as wide or as narrow as they want.
I think copying Mastodon would be the best for this. You can mark the post as sensitive (nsfw), which blurs the images. You can also add a content warning that can be used for anything (nsfw, nsfl, spoilers, etc).
And then use tags separately for categorizing posts.
Thank you I'll check the links 👍
Just do what I do and fill your blocklist with over 500 (and growimg) porn communities...
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Done👍
Some of the apps allow blocking of instances, I use Sync For Lemmy and I blocked pornlemmy and lemmynsfw and I don't see porn anymore for the most part, there are still some stray nsfw communities on other instances but I rarely see any of their content
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It would be easier to allow you to fully block the 2 instances it comes from.
For real, if I could block lemmynsfw that would remove 90% of the porn from my feed.
I swear I blocked every community on there but more keep showing up…
100% there needs to be a way to block lemmynsfw, I say this even as an admin for it!
Ha, great reply
Nothing against your instance, just wish I could hide it from my “all” feed without hiding all NSFW content.
Agreed. There needs to also have more granular federation options (blocking images, forcing NSFW on another instances posts, silence them in c/all, etc etc)
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What's the second one
You know, so I can block it too
Pornlemmy.com
There's also yiffit (.net I think?) and some .uk instance, like lemmef.uk or something
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Yeah, I originally left it unchecked because I'm fine with non-porn NSFW stuff, but the porn was so overwhelming I just had to block it all.
can we just block instances at the user account level?
I think i saw there is a merge request for this up on git, which hopefully means it's not far away
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This is really the best solution
Many of the Android apps let you filter instances, as well as individual communities or users. Most instances don't host porn because of the legal headache, so blocking the only two that specialize in it should (mostly) do the trick: lemmynsfw and pornlemmy. On Sync for Lemmy, tap the overflow button on an offending post > filter > filter instance
I get that, but I don't feel good about that solution. You're sort of beholden to that specific client.
Given new lemmy is as a platform, I don't want to feel locked in yet (though I understand instance block lists might be cross compatible between all client apps supporting the feature).
Another counter argument is that an instance block list should be relatively short. Keeping this list in a separate location and manually re-applying will probably not take up a lot of time.
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Alternatively a filter for "hentai" and a more general "anime" filter would also be nice.
How would the filters apply to those communities where it's lewd anime but still technically clothed? I've had to block several communities for being what is as close to hentai as you can get.
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Nsfl = inury / death
Nsfw = curse words, a boob, etc
Porn tag for porn and art with nude chicks
“NSFW” is such a terrible overloaded term.
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Or a NUDE tag to cover all of the uncovered.
Can we have the exact opposite?
"Safe" tagging?
No, way to tag nsfw that's not porn.
I think overall a good way would be to add content warnings like other fediverse software and making it so that you can set specific communities to have specific content warnings to be applied.
While we're at it let's add that for different languages
I don't think ActivityPub supports that. There's just the "sensitive" flag (which Mastodon shows as a content warning and lemmy shows as NSFW). I think you'd have to do something outside of the specification.
I don't think ActivityPub supports that.
Which only means that you have to add it to activitypub first.