Media and search engines nowadays need a flag system and a filter for AI junk results
Shit like this is why I don’t feel bad about my aggressive ad blocking on YouTube. If they don’t care to deprioritize garbage like this (or moderate really at all) then why should I sit through a 50 second ad to watch a 5 minute video?
So tangential storytime: my husband recently discovered one of these channels (not sure if it's this one or just a similar one), and specifically this goddamned song called "I glued my balls to my butthole again." He will. Not. Stop. Playing it. He thinks it's fucking hilarious, especially the more I roll my eyes.
Anyway, yes these channels are a blight, something needs to be done about them, and if anyone needs a husband they can find mine on the curb blasting that song on a loop lmao
Lul I'm fairly certain obscurest vinyl isn't one of those Ai channels. They're actually pretty hilarious. I wouldn't play them on repeat.But they're fun for a laugh with friends who haven't heard then yet.
That song in particular is a song I've heard of before, it was one of the first AI generated songs I found (and was sent around a bit because it was an early example of what ridiculous stuff one can do with AI).
You can also hear it to be honest, if you listen closely to the vocals. (Luckily you can still spot AI songs that way, I wonder how long that'll work.)
Also I looked up obscurest vinyl, and apparently all their songs are AI generated.
Well shit. Fair enough, I was misguided.
This is a statement from an AMA by the creator:
In a way, this sounds similar to someone using a DiffSinger or ENUNU voicebank to make music, but without having to write all the lyrics word/syllable for word/syllable on individual notes and change the notes they're on individually because you pitched them wrong. Also without the backing track too.
Either way, interesting enough that you can even do this kinda stuff. Especially since any time I've played around with that kind of AI, it's always never turned out even remotely halfway decent in any way.
Holy cope from that guy lmao
"uhh it's still a significant effort guys, I might just suck at every part of making actual music but I work hard on pressing random buttons"
Closer to “I cannot play every instrument or sounds like older vinyl music stars, so I use AI to help replicate the sound and feeling of older music while writing new lyrics. I vet all work done by the computer and fine tune its outputs for the best results.”
I love it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPlOYPGMRws
If you don't like the titular hit 'i glued my balls to my butthole, again" , then fuck you
What do you think the word “titular” means?
boobs or something idk englinsh
Surfers say tubular, strippers say titular.
Hell yeah!
He says the titular line in "I glued my balls to my butthole again"
It's honestly not as good as I Staple Tapeworms To My Penis.
Or " It's Time To Take a Shit on the Company's Dime", that one slaps as well!
I mean, yes it is garage, but:
Yes, it is still bad.
Why are you listening to the youtube recommendations? Why are you looking at the recommendations? What are you expecting there in the first place?
There was a time when the YouTube recommendations were actually pretty good. I discovered a number of great artists just from suggested songs and playlists. That no longer seems to be the case though, my recommendations have been garbage for more than 5 years at this point.
Dunno what y'all did to your algorithms but mine is still working just fine. When something odd comes up that I don't like, I tell it not to continue recommending that.
Yeah. You gota curate that shit. Then it works.
Well, I make maps for a rhythm game and like to rewatch my showcase videos, so it started offering me that (meaning it's music I enjoy but with a lot of shooting in the background).
But other than that it's solid.
It can definitely work if you've trained it right. It's how I discovered many of my now favorite vocaloid/utau/deepvocal/whatever songs, amongst other groups outside of that vocal synth genre. It definitely isn't doing me super dirty in the music department.
Here’s the full text of the disclaimer on the channel’s “About” tab as of present:
“Disclaimer:
Popsie Funk is a fictitious creation. The tracks are A.I. generated from lyrics and musical compositions that I have created. The A.I. samples are then mixed and edited by me.
I am adding this disclaimer due to repeated questions about the genuine authenticity of Popsie Funk and his music.
While being asked the same question dozens of times can be taxing, I take confusion as a huge compliment!
After all, if you can’t tell by ear that my music is A.I. generated, then I’m doing my job right!”
The channel owner directly states that it is their intention to mislead. I did see the disclaimer on the channel after looking up the “artist” and before making this post, but that disclaimer is not visible on the thumbnail preview and the video description omits any reference to it. The inclusion of the year in the video title as well as the hashtags all attempt to work their way into the feeds of those not in the know to convince them that it is legitimate.
The channels that are not upfront are even worse.
When I am using my phone as opposed to a desktop, I watch YouTube videos in the phone’s built-in browser so I can refresh the page to skip any ads before the video. I typically don’t have the patience after watching the video to open the YouTube app and wait for an ad to load and then wait to swipe the ad out of the way just to “Like” or “Dislike” the video. I may glimpse through the recommended page on the chance there is anything that I may have missed, or that may have been a surprise upload, or that may be adjacent to videos/channels that I’ve already watched and which may be of interest to me.
The tracks are A.I. generated from lyrics and musical compositions that I have created. The A.I. samples are then mixed and edited by me.
Generated from human compositions, human-mixed, human-edited, there's plenty of songs which have less human input. Even I can steal beats from a frying steak.
This isn't the "automated AI slop" that you're looking to complain about.
As to "intention to mislead": That has nothing to do with AI. Passing off a new composition as a 1974 track on first sight is peak retro.
Indeed.
When popular “real artists” release songs, they usually won’t have written the lyrics or the music, leaving just the vocals, which they will auto tune and possibly even mime in future performances.
A producer will then use powerful software to mix and refine everything.
So really the question to me is not about “is there anything impure in this art?” It’s “where is the line?”.
The channel owner directly states that it is their intention to mislead. I did see the disclaimer on the channel after looking up the “artist” and before making this post, but that disclaimer is not visible on the thumbnail preview and the video description omits any reference to it. The inclusion of the year in the video title as well as the hashtags all attempt to work their way into the feeds of those not in the know to convince them that it is legitimate.
I agree in that regard.
by opening videos you don’t like and give them a thumbs down
You don't need to do this. There literally is a feature for exactly this: Click on the three dots and on "Don't recommend". If you do this, content like that won't be recommended to you anymore.
But then the content won't receive my thumbdown :(
The same reason as why Spotify does it. Content that they don't have to pay any royalty for to anyone. They can keep 100% of the ads money. In a few years we'll find out all these accounts were just created by the platform themselves. Legally.
Welcome to the world of tomorrow!
I glued my balls to my butthole again.
I've been thinking a lot about the state of things, and where we are heading.
At what point do we consider the internet "useless"? It must be coming very soon (less than 2 years), since the majority of content will be AI generated and targeted, which drives down the value for users even further.
Once original ideas vanish, and you can't trust any text/audio/video/photo you see, what will be the point? It's like the internet will simply be a video game world with next to no value.
And I can't see how society can possibly reverse this.
Saying the internet is going to be "useless" in less than two years might be one of the wildest takes I have ever read.
Let me ask you this: assuming you use the internet for information rather than entertainment, would the internet be useful if the majority of content ends up being AI generated (not fact checked, not accurate, and not original)?
What if the overwhelming content you come across could neither be verified as true, and the majority of comments (including here on Lemmy) were bots? Would you still use it?
For me, it would stop being useful. Almost like a library only carrying fiction, when I'm trying to research a topic.
For entertainment, sure, it'll be great for sucking the attention from people without having to invest in skill to be good at something. Hell, if you currently find YouTube shorts and Tiktok to be "good content", then it'll be around forever. Corporations and advertisers love this technology.
if the majority of content ends up being AI generated
yeah…
The majority of the internet is porn. Literally. That doesn't mean that every information you look up is porn. Just because there exist much of it doesn't mean wikipedia and other credible sites will suddenly just disappear.
And honestly, while AI generated articles are absolute garbage, it's not like LLMs you can chat with are completely useless.
The majority of the internet is porn.
Again, I'll separate entertainment from informational, since entertainment can be garbage, and still be consumed.
Bad information doesn't help anyone.
it's not like LLMs you can chat with are completely useless.
The problem is, you wouldn't know unless you know.
With a legitimate website that has human writers, editors, and fact-checkers, they can at least have creditability and a reputation to uphold.
Far too many randomly generated websites have a lot of information, but without any guardrails. If you know enough about a topic, you'll realise that the information on these AI sites are pretty much useless. That is, you couldn't use them as a source because enough of the info is bad/incorrect/incoherent, that it's like asking a toddler who may or may not give you a valid question.
I've contacted a manufacturer of bike stuff, and their support is given by AI. While the answers you get sound like they could be right, it's like getting an answer from someone who heard something about something from a friend. When you actually ask for a human, the answer is often different (and correct).
There is no accountability, or credibility, or responsibility, or integrity with AI. It has no reputation to lose if the information it provides is bad or not.
I know that AI isn't going away. I'd personally be OK with some human verification system for websites, and would be more than willing to use a filtered version of the internet that blocks AI generated content. Call it curated or whitelisted, but I want my information to come from a human being.
Conversely, I still need to make and receive important phone calls even though the vast majority of calls I receive are spam
But you know they are spam, so it's something you can avoid. But what if the majority (over 80%) of the calls you receive can't be identified as spam. At some point, you may be wasting far more time than it's worth to keep using a phone without some major whitelist/blacklist system.
Also, what happens when the outbound calls you make are answered by AI, and you don't know? If this AI is giving you replies that are word salad, how long are you willing to tolerate it?
I've been getting text messages now from companies that I actually do business with, but they are spam. Calls from companies that I have accounts with, and they are scams. At some point, SMS and phone calls will be more trouble than its worth.
And the thought of either having to go without it, the pain of replacing it, or the frustration of being strung along in a scam are not thoughts I want to have.
You can just click on the three dots and on "Do not recommend" or Don't recommend from this channel, then it will stop.
Hasn't been happening to me. Then again, the music I listen to probably isn't a big target for AI, yet.
I'm just rubbin' and tuggin' my fuckin' nips
Handful of amusing and novel examples aside, generated art is an affront to han creativity and ought to be banned everywhere, or at the very least strictly relegated to its own spaces so it can be easily avoided
YouTube desperately needs to fix the recommendations for music. It’s either recommending me the same music I already listen to and is irrelevant to what I’m currently playing or something irrelevant to my taste and the video being watched. Think watching an Ice Cube video but having recommendations for Megadeth and Alice In Chains and Adele on the side. And if it’s not something I’ve already watched/listened to, it’s still something totally unrelated.
For the longest time, they kept recommending “Beck - Loser” to me on anything I would watch, regardless of genre. I’ve never listened to or searched for any of Beck’s music and I don’t know how that would be recommended to someone currently watching an Ice Cube music video…
And the live performances…I don’t ever watch or listen to live performances. Yet YouTube always recommends it to me. Even having a whole section dedicated to “Live Music”. Never asked for this, never searched for it…I don’t care for Live performances. I want studio only.
And what’s worse is that YouTube has a feature to tell it “Don’t recommend this video - because I watched it or don’t like it” or “don’t recommend this channel” EXCEPT for music! Why????
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