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[–] DarkMetatron@feddit.org 142 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (5 children)

From the Nexus Mods Discord:

God of War No PSN Requirement Mod

Hi <@&1116364961757790238>

We've had several questions from the community about the NoPSSDK mod for God of War Ragnarok which is no longer available on the site.

We would like to clarify this page was removed by the mod author and not by a member of our team.

I've reached out to iArtorias to find out what happened, but we suspect that Sony may have requested they remove it as they've deleted it from GitHub too.

[–] MelastSB@sh.itjust.works 41 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

I looked around and there do seem to be backups out there, would suggest people download them and reupload them. Same way was done when they tried to go after YouTube-dl.

[–] Cris16228@lemmy.today 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There was a fork and I've found the source code lmao, gonna save it

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] Cris16228@lemmy.today 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I can't tell you because I don't want to be sued by Sony but please don't open this link!

Lemmy might have leaked it with a preview:(

[–] AsudoxDev@programming.dev 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

please DO NOT use this magnet link (I unconciously might have put the magnet link you should not use in this comment):

magnet link that you should not use

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:03e752a3cfb3e975179df4a0806eb1ed434400fa&xt=urn:btmh:12203247be5129310b7ec671b2605ed94e6b036ae579de3e239f06465bbdaa8a1fe9&dn=nopssdk-master.zip&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.opentrackr.org%3a1337%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2fopen.demonii.com%3a1337%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2fopen.stealth.si%3a80%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.torrent.eu.org%3a451%2fannounce&tr=https%3a%2f%2ftracker.tamersunion.org%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker1.bt.moack.co.kr%3a80%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker-udp.gbitt.info%3a80%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2fretracker01-msk-virt.corbina.net%3a80%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2fopentracker.io%3a6969%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2fexplodie.org%3a6969%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2fexodus.desync.com%3a6969%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2fwepzone.net%3a6969%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker2.dler.org%3a80%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.tiny-vps.com%3a6969%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.dler.org%3a6969%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.ccp.ovh%3a6969%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.0x7c0.com%3a6969%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2frun.publictracker.xyz%3a6969%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2fnew-line.net%3a6969%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2fmoonburrow.club%3a6969%2fannounce

[–] Cris16228@lemmy.today 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm not on pc but on android it gives me infinite download time

[–] AsudoxDev@programming.dev 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ah yeah, seems like nobody is seeding it at the moment. I'll start seeding as soon as I get home.

[–] Cris16228@lemmy.today 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)
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[–] Aquila@sh.itjust.works 37 points 6 months ago

Pleasantly surprised nexus mods weren’t being goons in this scenario

[–] burgersc12@mander.xyz 21 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

The modder posted like two days ago that he was gonna continue to maintain it lmao how quickly they changed their tune

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 months ago

I think this is a way to release it, it will get copied numerous times, and then he can shut down and avoid legal trouble.

Putting it on nexusmods was a PR stunt.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 4 points 6 months ago

Was enough to make a crack, so, now we all can play it without DRM anyway

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Nexusmods has always been cucked about this sort of thing. I cant blame them but its still sad to see.

[–] tfw_no_toiletpaper@lemmy.world 69 points 6 months ago

Did you even read the comment lol

[–] DarkMetatron@feddit.org 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It can be made the argument that the mod is a way to circumvent copy protection and due to this in conflict with the DMCA (and all the equal laws in many other lands).
A mod like this is not the worth to go to court over, so it is only understandable that the creator has pulled it from the net the best he could. And even if Nexus had pulled the mod down over a DMCA notice nobody should blame them. We may not like the laws but Nexus Mods is bound to it.

[–] CoolGirl586@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Nexus Mods didn't delete it. The creator took it down themselves.

[–] DarkMetatron@feddit.org 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yes, I know. Never said anything else.

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

i assume he got a cease and desist letter from sony

[–] DarkMetatron@feddit.org 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

According to public sources at Nexus Mods he has taken it down preemptively out of fear for possible consequences.
But there is always the possibility that the cease and desist letter came with a firm request to not talk about the cease and desist letter, but that is highly speculoos

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[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 56 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Things that get removed by staff on nexusmods don't show a 'Not Found' link or have the title renamed 'DELETED' - they generally show 'removed by staff' or 'under moderation review since <date>'.

'Not found' is usually when the mod author unpublishes a mod.

This sounds like the typical mod drama, author has removed it for some reason and people are jumping to conclusions and/or the author is gaslighting people into the wrong conclusions.

[–] kboy101222@sh.itjust.works 14 points 6 months ago

Nexus Mods confirmed they didn't do it

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 44 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Not too surprising, I imagine removing the PSN login was real close to just cracking the game entirely. Honestly not sure why people would buy the game and then use a third party tool to bypass the PSN requirement as opposed to just pirating the game to begin with.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I mean... it is removing DRM. It is literally a crack. It is just that people (and outlets) thought they were clever for saying "mod".

So... the crack is down and now there is even more fuel for the "mods are bad because they are for pirates" stupidity.

[–] AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

I think literally 5 people in the entire universe have ever uttered anything approaching the phrase "mods are for pirates". And you somehow encountered all 4 of the others.

[–] simple@lemm.ee 26 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Not surprising. Nexus mods will remove literally any mod that a company asks them to, and have done this a lot in the past.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 27 points 6 months ago

The author removed it, not Nexus.

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 27 points 6 months ago (2 children)

What do you suppose they should do instead? Get sued out of existence?

[–] simple@lemm.ee 16 points 6 months ago

I'm not saying they shouldn't follow through takedown requests, just pointing it out. Nexus mods isn't the place to put mods like this.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I doubt they could be sued over this at all.

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They could be, easily. Sony wouldn't likely win, but all they really need to do is bury the operators in legal fees and subpoenas.

Yeah my bad thats what i meant. They could be sued but not successfully. If the biggest modding platform doesnt fight back then there is little hope outside of decentralized platforms, but preaching to the choir on lemmy with that one...

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 18 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Freaking said it literally yesterday that they'd force it down, and literally yesterday someone said "there's no way no company has taken down a mod like that". Modders are well and good but they're people, and whether it was the modder directly or nexus, it was only a matter of time before Sony lawyers sent a cease and desist.

I blame the news outlets for making it public and screaming from the rooftops that they were bypassing it.

So anyone have a copy saved?

[–] Aielman15@lemmy.world 23 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I blame the news outlets for making it public and screaming from the rooftops that they were bypassing it.

It's not the journalists' fault if they are informing people of the existence of something. And the idea that gamers would've been able to enjoy the mod without Sony noticing if journalists never spoke of it is dumb.

So anyone have a copy saved?

I'm still able to download the file from the original link.

https://www.nexusmods.com/godofwarragnarok/mods/22?tab=files&file_id=74

This was the original description of the mod:

Notes
This project does not touch or modify any original game code and is NOT intended to encourage the piracy.

  1. Download the latest release
  2. Copy the version.dll and PsPcSdk.dll to the game folder
  3. Enjoy!

Troubleshooting:
If you still encounter the login screen error, make sure to remove this file first:
C:\Users[Username]\Saved Games\God of War Ragnarök[AccountID]\userpreferences
Upon the first popup when it asks to link the Steam account, press "NO" button.

It's worth mentioning that the mod could stop working with future updates of the game, however.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

It's worth mentioning that the mod could stop working with future updates of the game, however.

That's why it would be good if somebody had the source code, not just a backup of the mod. Available source code will allow somebody else to tweak it or more easily make a better one in case Sony tries to break it.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The author deleted it, not nexus.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

and whether it was the modder directly or nexus, it was only a matter of time before Sony lawyers sent a cease and desist.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There are mods and alternate launchers that skip these things for pretty much every single player game that has launchers and sign-ins. This isn't a new concept.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

and it's not a new concept that it's begging corporations to threaten legal action for things they don't like

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

None of these mods get sued. You can calm down on the outrage.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Lol dude I'm not outraged. I'm honestly very unsurprised by their actions. I'm annoyed that people are so shocked that it happened - literally a day after it made all the gaming blogs with headlines essentially saying "Look you can give the finger to Sony with this one little mod". Everyone laughed and said FU to Sony, and then the dev even said something stupid like "I promise never to take it down".

Then of course So ya lawyers came in and threatened the guy. Of course they did. I am zero percent shocked they did. So he had the choice of spending 6 figures fighting them in court, or take it down. I don't blame him at all. I eyeroll at everyone who so publicly flaunted it yesterday when it should have been a quiet passing around.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

I see what you're saying.
The Mass Effect dll mod went through the same thing. I still have the original download just in case it got removed.
And it did.
But it was only like a week or two before it was uploaded by the author again, and it's been up since.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

I blame the news outlets for making it public and screaming from the rooftops that they were bypassing it.

We should put our efforts and energy towards fighting back against the companies that do this and not against each other. Pointing fingers at each other doesn't do anything.

These companies have their own intelligence divisions whose job it is to find out about projects like this. They don't find out about it from the news they find out about it from their intelligence divisions long before it becomes popular.

If anything projects like this being popular is better for them because it means people like us can copy them and redistribute them faster than they can issue takedowns.

If anything I would say that this mindset is exactly what these companies want, they want these projects to be obscure and copied by very few people so when they issue the takedown, it's not saved by anybody else. They also would prefer it over the retaliation that some people might do to them, I mean just look at what people are doing to Rockstar right now. They would rather we fight with each other, then fight back against them. They are the enemy and they always have been, the sooner we realize it the better.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The mod who bypass' the PSN login for God of War Ragnarök got removed on Nexus Mods

That poor mod - they generously offer to go to peoples' houses to bypass the PSN login and then get removed from the website! That's some gratitude!

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Yes, and "bypasses."

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 12 points 6 months ago

and ofc sony be enforcing drm

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