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The retailer says the change will create consistency in starting hourly pay across individual stores.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 years ago (2 children)

“Consistent starting pay results in consistent staffing and better customer service while also creating new opportunities for associates to gain new skills from experience across the store and lay the groundwork for their career regardless of where they start,”

Ok miss PR person. Please explain your rationale cause that shit makes no sense.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I worked somewhere that was killing off their QA department and in a company wide meeting explained it by saying “when you go to a store a pick up a part, you expect it to have gone through QA” Lots of head scratching that day. They still don’t QA their products. They just ship them and let the customers complain if something is wrong.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I work in software dev. My old job laid off our entire QA team at once and presented it as an opportunity to learn doing testing as a developer.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

twice the work, half the pay per job. woohoo!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Exactly. So glad I left there.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Bugs are cheaper to just deal with as they pop up….until they aren’t.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've seen this happen too. It's sort of a double edged sword - devs need to take testing seriously and have coverage metrics. However, this doesn't negate the need for QA particularly in software that has a human experience associated with it. Writing code and having it work correctly doesn't mean that the user experience itself will be correct. For whatever reason, executives don't understand this and software gets shipped with more bugs than ever because there's little to no QA.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yeah. We wrote unit tests and integration tests, but we needed ui tests, which none of us were strong in at the time. One bug I remember fondly, it was possible to abuse debounce basically to submit bad info by switching an input after hitting submit. This happened more than you would expect. Took us forever to figure it out till we were able to get a UI tester from another team to figure it out. The human element is super useful in testing

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Not for my old app that had to be audited 6 times a year lol. Any data defect had to be explained in a one page summary. Now imagine you regularly have ~30k concurrent users. The wrong bug means tons of paperwork that brings us all out of development mode to write and support.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Reminds me when we had three companies merging at the same time and the bosses brought everyone in to tell the grunts and sales people that no one will be losing jobs. I ask, "You know when you nove in with someone and you have to get rid of a set of dishes. Do you think you need three sets of dishes?" Yeah, so there were tons of lay offs.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Why even lie about it. Anyone smart enough to be worth something at the company is also smart enough to know better. You’ll lose everyone you can’t afford to lose.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

probably went something like this: someone at a low paying store complained about the store 4 miles down the road paying more. so they're addressing that 'issue'.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 years ago

meanwhile, record profits and unprecedented wealth for one family

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 years ago (2 children)

One of the top employers whose employees use public assistance like food stamps cutting starting wages? This timeline sucks.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

they hate their customers just as much as their employees, those stores are nasty

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Walmart profits are subsidized by your tax dollars

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

When you didn't think they could be more evil:

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Oh quit being so obtuse. They only generated 143 billion dollars in profit last year. How can they be expected to pay their employees a living wage like that??

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

After all, if they took 140 of that billion and divided it among their 2.1 million global retail employees, that'd only be 66,666 each with a 1.4 million left over. Hardly worth doing, obviously. After all, what will the shareholders say??

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

So they could increase all wages at or below of $10 to $43 and still get bonuses.

God don't you love America?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

Yeah plus they have over 2 million associates per their website. Even if they COULD give everybody a raise, that's only like $70,000 per person.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago

Weird how that consistency can't be created by raising wages.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The only cutting that Walmart needs is senior executives' necks. With a guillotine.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Then insurance company execs

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

don't forget those at the top at giant huge telcos and internet providers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Let's just do it to all the rich and their cronies

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm actually surprised they were paying what they pay. My nephew got hired to move carts around for $19 an hour. Sure, it's part-time, but that's a crazy starting wage for a big box store in Indiana.

Edit: Before you think I'm pro-Walmart, fuck Walmart. I hope every store closes down and the Waltons go bankrupt.

Edit 2: Also, minimum wage should be $21 an hour everywhere, so it's only a crazy starting wage because Indiana is a fucked up red state.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

I'm surprised they had room to cut without going below minimum wage.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Remember, they're not anti-union, but they're not neutral either.

EDIT: Since people seem to be missing the joke here, this is a common line in anti-union propaganda training videos.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

They literally got rid of the deli meats counter because they voted to unionize. They are completely anti union

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

For anyone who doesn't know, I was quoting their union-busting videos.

Amazon and Lowe's use that same line.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

the in-store butchers and bakery, too, iirc.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I worked for a Wal-Mart once. They literally have anti union propaganda in their training material

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I would've expected you to get the joke then.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Also Ross. They're a gross company that treats their workers like shit. When you start working there they give you pamphlets on how to sign up for social services like food stamps. They also have one of those employee funds, where everyone pays into it every month and if someone has an emergency they can use money from it. Maybe if they paid their employees a livable wage they wouldn't need makeshift insurance funded by their impoverished workers. So fucked up.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I haven’t shopped at Walmart in years. Their stores are truly shit.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

Best deals around.

I personally think there's not much variation in grocery stores if they have the products I want.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Not like that!