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[–] [email protected] 310 points 2 years ago (15 children)
[–] [email protected] 112 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Sounds like they really want people to use Firefox!

[–] [email protected] 72 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They fund Mozilla a ton on purpose. They want a small subset of people to use Firefox. It keeps them from the monopoly investigations

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2023-05-05/why-google-keeps-paying-mozilla-s-firefox-even-as-chrome-dominates

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 years ago (10 children)

I knew about that. They also pay to be the default search engine on Firefox.

But my joke was that these changes make it seem like they don't want people to use Chrome anymore and switch to Firefox instead. If users knew about this stuff and understood it, Firefox would bounce back.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I have already begun to move from Google services.

Look for other large corporations to continue this trend: offer a product to the masses for free, wait until you have little to no competitors and dominate in market share, then put it behind a pay wall or strongarm changes that most of the population doesn't understand. Oracle did it with Java, knowing most companies were too invested to look for alternatives, and now Google is doing it with their Chrome baked-in privacy changes and ad crackdown.

I expect to see more of this trend from "free" services as the people continue to wake up and take their personal data seriously. We know the government(s) won't do a thing to change the status quo, and I have no idea what else to do other than cry into my ramen and binge watch the death of a planet in 4K!

Unfortunately, the rich keep scarcity high to ensure they not only make the most money, but they can use less money to buy favors from those with less. Man greed sucks...

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[–] [email protected] 161 points 2 years ago (32 children)
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[–] [email protected] 88 points 2 years ago

Firefox gets like 90% of its revenue from Google.

Keep Firefox independent and donate: https://donate.mozilla.org/en-US/?form=donate

[–] [email protected] 79 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The site you've linked to literally uses Facebook and Google browser trackers. Pretty hypocritical of them if you ask me.

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 2 years ago (3 children)

So my takeaway from this is to never use Chrome again? Gotcha.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 years ago (4 children)

If everyone who said they were going to do this actually did this, Chrome wouldn't do this, if that makes sense.

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 2 years ago (12 children)

For people who roll their eyes when someone mentions Linux and all of the free and open source projects adjacent to it (including Firefox!), this is exactly why many people value those things. We actually can have freedom in computing and it's worth pushing for. We don't have to roll over simply accept what Google, Microsoft and Apple want.

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Firefox has been my go-to, but I've left Chrome installed just to have on hand incase some website fuckiness could be solved with a browser change.

Naw. It's not worthy of staying around even for that. Time to completely scrub my devices of google.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Feeling the same, it’s surprising how many companies are just leaning towards screwing users for a few more pennies on the dollar. Eventually, Google with be the next AOL.

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 2 years ago (29 children)

We have firefox, iceweasel, fennec (android). Anything else not firefox based is chrome based. Don't get tricked by opera and similars.

You can still change browser.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 years ago (3 children)

You guys are way to late to quit chrome, and you probably won't at this point. This is what happens when you don't swap, you enable this anti-consumer monopoly behavior.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 years ago (25 children)

I change from Chrome to Firefox recently on all devices and it was a pretty easy transition.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Back in the old days when a software contains these crap, considered as adware/malware and people get their pitchforks.

Now: its normal.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Lol nice. People using chrome be like

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Every single thing about Google sucks nowadays. Great job Sundar, you successfully turned one of the former most exciting companies on the planet into one of the absolute lamest.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Switched back to Firefox. Easy transition. Fuck Google.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Time to uninstall chrome. Can I move my passwords, bookmarks and saved data there? How do I do it?

[–] [email protected] 70 points 2 years ago (1 children)

When you install any browser (Firefox recommend) it ask you if you want to transfer browser data. It will guide you through (its pretty much automatic)

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (13 children)

just adding that granted FF already has a decent password manager there are also reliable, free and open source and audited independent password manager like as

  • Bitwarden (remote service as basic or premium plan, optionally self hosted, user friendly service, very likely has some account migration wizard tool to help importing data from browsers) and
  • KeepassXC (local, user managed, a bit techy)

which both can plug in any browser through their respective extension.

Being both an independent option from the browser they help the user not making him vendor locked to his browser through his saved data.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 years ago

getfirefox.com

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 years ago (16 children)

So as far as i know, firefox is the only mayor browser not based on chromium. Also, firefox is dependent on google's funding because of a search engine exclisivity deal. So my understanding is that, if google decides to kill firefox, they could easily do that. Well, what then? Is there any other browser left wich similar features that would be untouchable by google?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

They couldn't kill Firefox without having the US government come down on them for monopoly. Which the government is already looking at https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/24/tech/doj-google-lawsuit/index.html , so it's not likely Google will risk it even further by shitting down funding to Firefox. Pretty sure they'll point at Firefox to claim they're not a monopoly.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 years ago (11 children)

I tried to preach why Google sharing your browsing history with ad partners is bad, but most of my friends don't seem to care. :(

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Honestly, I was already using FF for my home. Made the switch on Mobile after seeing this on the news yesterday. I'm just one person though.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Now that Firefox is getting in-page translation capability, Chrome does not offer any features I am missing anymore. As long as they don't start performance wars, like the shit that happened with Youtube a while ago, I'll be fine

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 years ago

Not used anything but Firefox for the last 10 years or so. Can't remember how long I've used DDG for. Fuck Google and all who fail in her.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 years ago

It's lucky I haven't used Chrome in years. Firefox is much appreciated these days.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago (4 children)

That was completely expected. You give any company monopoly over anything and they will abuse it. This was Chrome dominating browser market. Microsoft did it with IE back in the day. Now Google is doing it again.

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