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[–] [email protected] 156 points 6 months ago (1 children)

about two years

How convenient.

[–] [email protected] 98 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It's exactly the time, where they are legally required to fix that in the EU

[–] [email protected] 40 points 6 months ago

I know, that's why it always catches my eye when there's "2 years" in there somewhere.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

~~Warranties are now 3 years in the EU.~~

Edit: nope, just some countries.

[–] [email protected] 101 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Pathetically weak flex cable and connector. Obvious problem and design weakness that's persisted for years.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It would be a relief if that was the problem. Even if Apple won’t issue a recall, third-party cables can be made and sold for a reasonable price by places like iFixIt.

If the display itself is defective, then this is going to be real bad for a lot of people unless Apple bites the bullet.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 6 months ago

Look at the 2016 MacBook Pro.

They had a problem with the display cable and it can’t be easily replaced since it’s soldered to the display.

You basically just need to get an entirely new display even though it’s just the cable.

Additionally, some shops will resolder the cable, but it’s not a long term solution.

Even replacing the display by Apple is not a long term solution because they replace it with another display that has a cable that’s slightly too short and will eventually break again.

So the only real solution is to buy a new computer.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Happened in 2022 to a 2017 MBP belonging to someone I knew. She went out and bought a new one, and put the old one in a drawer. She brought it to me in 2023, I investigated and found the shitshow - Apple saying "nuh-uh", the ACCC (Australian consumer advocate) saying "you'd better", then Apple quoting me $1100 because the ACCC never enforced it, and me getting it fixed locally for $550. It needed a new screen, not because the screen itself was faulty, but because the failing flex cable was integrated with the screen. Screw Apple.

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Apple builds obsolescence into their products on purpose.

If you'd bought a PC, a faulty screen would be easily replaceable. I had to replace my laptop screen myself several years ago, and with a $60 part and ten minutes on youtube, it was an easy repair.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Not really anymore. They make them expensive to repair, but they also don't want you to switch to another brand, because for them a user in the ecosystem purchasing apps and subscriptions is worth way more than a frustrated user purchasing a one time display replacement. Their whole strategy now (for a few years really) is to make devices that last at minimum 5 years, because it makes the user happy that their 5yo phone still works, and that means they are likely to get another iPhone, and because as long as the user is in the ecosystem, they are making money by taking their cut of everything that happens on the device

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago (4 children)

I still use a 2011 MacBook Pro. It’s running Linux Mint now and hasn’t been my primary laptop for a couple of years now, but it’s still a solid machine. In fact, as is the norm with Apple stuff, it lost OS support long before it stopped being a viable laptop.

Fortunately, Opencore Legacy Patcher exists…

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Let's hope Asahi linux becomes usable enough as a daily driver before the M series laptops stop getting updates

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That will be 450$ and you'll have to send your device in for 3 weeks. -Apple Genius

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago

Oddly enough, the reason why I did the repair myself was that the shop quoted me $400, haha. It's nice to live in a world where you can fix your own stuff, something that Apple also does their best to prevent.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Hmm. I'm still using a 2014 iMac, as its 27" 5k screen still very good for coding (with added memory). Sometimes develops a bunch of thin vertical lines, which come and go maybe dependent on temperature, but hasn't changed for for ten years and i can live with those. Just wish they'd continue providing security updates for it.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (51 children)

27" 2015 iMac here. No problems whatsoever. I'm going to use this thing until it dies.

Edit: Gotta love the downvotes for literally just owning a Mac. Good luck breaking into the industry as a video editor without one, guys.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I got a free 2012 iMac and updated it using OpenCore Legacy Patcher.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Wow thanks, never heard of this before. I was getting all set to buy a new Macbook so I could install the latest versions of Xcode and keep developing iOS apps. Looks like I can keep on abusing my 12yo Macbook instead.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

Linux runs great on Intel iMacs. Just sayin’.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 months ago (3 children)

What does this have to do with "Apple Silicon"? Unless it's not screen deterioration, but something with graphic output.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Might just be to indicate when it started happening. They could have written "M1" and still cause the same confusion, and I believed that's what the model is called.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"According to an investigation by one of the affected users, the Apple iMac screen uses a flex cable that must sustain a voltage of around 50 volts when the screen is set to high or maximum brightness. This causes the connector to burn out over time, it was theorized, resulting in short circuits that cause the black lines to appear on the screen"

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Oh. Makes sense it's a cable. This way they can profit on spare cables and keep the reputation of reliable hardware for their fanbase.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This flex cable is bonded to the LCD and requires a replacement of the whole display assembly

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Oh, so they can sell the whole matrix in addition to cable. Even better.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

A true marvel of engineering, pushing the boundries of business and technology

Tap for spoiler/s

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Oh. Makes sense it's Cable. This way they can profit on spare Cables and keep the reputation of New Mutants for their fanbase.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 months ago

It refers to the affected models, not the cause. The apple silicon iMac was a complete redesign.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago (5 children)

I have zero sympathy for Apple customers...

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago (6 children)

Ehh…iOS is arguably the most secure mobile operating system (excluding something like GrapheneOS) currently on the market.

I don’t give a shit what brand you use, because I don’t have brand loyalty, but I can see valid reasons for why someone might want to use Apple Macbooks. Shitting on the consumer here does no good. All consumers deserve the same amount of consumer protection, regardless of which tech overlord they happen to purchase their hardware from.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

I can see valid reasons for why someone might want to use Apple Macbooks

I use one because I write apps for iOS and you can only do that on a Macbook. It doesn't make me a fanboi.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I find victim blaming counterproductive. It would be more helpful to discuss stronger consumer protection laws.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Why not both?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If you were in their shoes, you'd probably say otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

I would never be in their shoes because I'm not that stupid.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

We shouldn't blame the victims that society failed to properly educate. You're right that if people intimately understood apple the way you probably do, they'd never buy an apple product. I would argue, however, that it's a failing of education not an informed choice to be corporately cucked.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (7 children)

When people willfully choose to buy products from a known anti-consumer companies, they are victims of their own poor choices. They do know, and they choose to buy them anyway. I know because they'll freely admit this to me.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Don't cut yourself on all that edginess.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Just bought myself a late 2011 17" MacBook Pro, it was listed as untested but I took the gamble... Yeah, its logic board turned out to be dead.

I bought far older ThinkPads for less money that worked perfectly.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Imo untested always means dead. Especially when it is something easy to test - like a laptop

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Yes, probably should have seen that coming to be fair. Especially since the A1297s are so prone to failure.

It's just that confirmed working ones are still so goddamn expensive and I kinda wanted to have one but not enough to drop 200€ on it

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

Yes, Apple! :-) Obviously Apple doesn't have the win margins to put proper parts in their hardware...

Just yesterday I realized my Thinkpad Edge 330 is running w/o any trouble for 11 years now, cost me little above 300€, brand new back then. :-)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Most durable modern Apple's hardwares:

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