Don’t let Lemmygrad see this article. They’ll ban the European Parliament.
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They’ll just change the topic and drown you in whataboutisms, logical fallacies, and availability heuristics.
It's not genocide if the communis... the dictatorshi... the ... Fuck your banned!
ml, hexbear & lemmygrad probably.
Some ml guy had a copy/pasta with about five links from obscure news sites describing how there was no genocide in China. And how inclusive it was towards religions...
Rofl
Inclusive asong as you remove any ideological symbols and replace them with pictures of Winny the pooh
Yup
emergency resolution
The article references 2017 and 2018. Did something happen recently?
Nope. Nothing at all happening lately, that's why Gedaliyah, son of Akiham, son of Shaphan, is posting 7 year old news about a great power accused of genocide against its Muslim population.
Some of the most Islamophobic countries in the world are condemning China's treatment of Muslims? I wonder how Islamic countries feel about it.
Wow an ML accepting china’s treatment of Muslims? You must be new… you’re not allowed to do that.
I am not accepting China's claims, I am accepting predominantly Muslim country's judgements on how Muslims are being treated in China over the countries that are either currently imperializing Islamic countries or are just incredibly islamophobic for no reason, like Poland.
Here's a map from Nov of 2019. A similar UN resolution passed about a month ago with similar support.
So to be clear, you accept that china is killing Muslims right? Don’t worry, your family won’t be sent to a reeducation camp.
If it was happening, Muslim majority countries might give a shit.
Europe does not and would not give a shit about the killing of Muslims.
Pretty sure they give a shit. Just because you can’t access that news doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist, Wumao.
Half of Europe is doing neocolonialism across Africa, Poland just stopped processing asylum seekers and made it easier to shoot migrants in "self defense".
Half of europe has banned clothing they associate with Muslims.
The only people euros hate more than Muslims are Roma.
So, are you trying to deflect from the fact that china is slaughtering Muslims too?
The point is that Europe is not a credible indicator on whether China is slaughtering Muslims, because Europe does not give a shit about slaughtering Muslims, as they regularly do it directly via interventions in Africa and/or are facilitating it right now via weapon sales to multiple dictatorships engaged in genocide of Muslim populations.
More credible indicators, such as actual Muslim countries, say China is not slaughtering Muslims.
Awww. See, here I thought you cared about Muslim genocide, but you don’t. You support it. Shameful. Bye.
What kind of "when did you stop beating your wife" horseshit is this?
The guys accusing China are supporting actual genocides against Muslims in Palestine and Yemen, you don't give a shit whether China is committing a genocide beyond it's utility to support hostile actions against those same Muslims.
Or do you think the Uyghurs lives would be improved by western sanctions, arming of terrorists, and/or military intervention?
This is no different than zionists handwringing about the plight of LGBT+ people in Gaza.
I’m saying all genocide is wrong. All Muslim genocide is wrong. You’re saying it’s wrong, except when china does it… because your only concern is the downfall of western civilization, and not AT ALL about genocide.
Shame on you for using genocide to push Wumao bullshit.
You’re saying it’s wrong, except when china does it
Stop misrepresenting what I'm saying. For the third time:
I am saying there is no genocide in China, because if there was, other Muslim countries would respond.
lol. There is plenty of evidence supporting genocide in china. You know it, but being Wumao, you can’t talk about it or even research it. So therefore you tell lies.
You’ll tell me it’s for “job training” or something, lol
Well the first paragraph claims "Forced birth control and sterilization policies targeting Uyghurs in China’s far western Xinjiang Province were intended to reduce the group’s population", which is proven false by the increase in population and life expectancy.
This was no accident. Wikipedia: Affirmative action in China
For example, minority ethnic groups in China were not subjected to its well-publicized (former) one-child policy.^[^^2^^]^^[^^3^^]^
Notice how they didn’t say the killing wasn’t happening.
There was killing happening: by CIA-backed fundamentalist terrorist cells that went on knifing sprees, set off bombs, and ran over crowds with vehicles. The Chinese state didn’t intervene for no reason, and I’m sure the vast majority of local Uyghurs and Hans alike were happy to no longer be attacked by terrorists.
Once you’ve seen enough “color revolutions”, you start to notice a pattern.
1993: Anti-Soviet warrior [bin Laden] puts his army on the road to peace
And by the CCP ordering the deaths of Muslims. Everyone is a bastard.
You are super-duper convinced of the Cold War II propaganda we’re being fed 🤷 I’m sure the Chinese state has nothing better to do with their time and resources than kill their own Muslim population for fun and profit. That doesn’t sound cartoon villain-y at all.
When you say it like that, anything sounds cartoony, so no, you’ll have to try another tactic Wumao. Get that money!!
🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷
You’re clearly not about to undrink that Kool-Aid, so there’s no point.
You and I feel exactly the same about each other. However, I won’t have my family abducted for speaking the truth. Sorry for your situation, I know this is how you pay your bills. Job is a job.
You can’t imagine someone simply having an informed opinion that differs from yours. I can only be a paid foreign agent sowing discord. More Snidely Whiplash-quality analysis.
Laughing my fucking ass off at your logical fallacy.
Did you even check to see if they did?
No. No you did not.
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20200102-jordan-holds-solidarity-rally-with-chinas-uyghurs/
I literally linked a map from a 2019 UN joint resolution, showing mostly Muslim-majority countries, including Jordan, that agree that there is no genocide in China.
Both Qatar and Jordan are American puppets, evidenced most recently by Jordan helping Israel carry out its genocide by shooting down Iranian drones.
I mean so are several other countries on that map, it's egregious enough that Saudi Arabia broke with America on this.
Your words:
If it was happening, Muslim majority countries might give a shit.
Are Jordan and Qatar majority Muslim countries? Because I'm pretty sure they are.
I didn't say every single Muslim majority country, because countries like Jordan are perfectly happy supporting genocides.
Fuck off with this bad faith bullshit.
If you didn't mean "Muslim majority countries," you should have said so.
Apparently what you meant was Muslim majority countries that pass your purity test.
Here's another Muslim majority country which gives a shit:
I'm guessing they don't count either since they're not the kind of Muslim who wears flowing robes and Keffiyeh.
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I'm guessing they feel like it's about time those countries were on their side for a change.
Of course, some of them are fine with it.
Support.
But isn't there a better source for this than VOA? I don't trust VOA for news about China like I don't trust RT for news about USA. Etc. It's strange how many people post state propaganda as if it's honest news.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/10/23/un-member-countries-condemn-chinas-crimes-against-humanity
Happy that they are doing at least something; sad as i know that they don't really care about the Uyghurs but just about the f*ing tarrif war.