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[–] [email protected] 169 points 5 months ago (3 children)

So, the EU banned these trucks because they present a danger to pedestrians, and someone modded one with rubberized bumpers to get it registered. That's it. That's the story.

[–] [email protected] 95 points 5 months ago (1 children)

the EU banned

No. The EU has not done anything regarding this car or this model.

The EU is just having rules that have made the drivers licenses and the registration process comparable and somewhat similar in it's member countries, and to let cars from the other member countries drive on their roads.

The article tells about some of these rules, but it mixes it up with the bedtime stories from this Euro-NCAP guy so that you could get many wrong ideas.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

EU laws in EU countries prohibit the registering of vehicles that don't meet certain guidelines that would protect pedestrians, yes?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Not exactly. As the article says, each country has it's own registration laws, and the guidelines from this NGO are usually not a part of the laws.

A country may still have it's own guidelines for the topic.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

Reading is hard.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago

But it's yet another opportunity to post a comment about how much we hate cybertrucks and the people who own them, so up it goes!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

It couldn't be banned because it was never approved in the first place

[–] [email protected] 88 points 5 months ago (3 children)

There is no overlap in the venn diagram of people who want a Cybertruck and people who consider pedestrian safety when buying a personal vehicle.

Actually, is there anyone that makes vehicle purchasing decisions considering pedestrian safety scores?

[–] [email protected] 76 points 5 months ago (5 children)

No, because no one intends to hit a pedestrian with the car they are buying. That’s why we need to mandate safer vehicles, not trust people to factor that in as they look for a car.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

I say build in spring loaded spikes that impale the driver in the event of a collision with a pedestrian. Since the cyber truck pretty much has that facing the pedestrians, if the driver is faced with the threat as well maybe they'll be more careful with their driving.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I’d say auto stop features and multiple camera views on reverse are a good selling point of a car. I certainly regret not getting the overhead camera view on the vehicle I purchased (and the blind spot indicators which don’t apply to pedestrians).

I’d also like to see the infra-red windshield overlays make it out of the prototype stage. This night vision/heat vision feature helps to alert you to deer, dogs, wildlife, and those dumb asses that insist on walking down the road at night in dark clothing in my neighborhood.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

auto stop features and multiple camera views

That wasn't meant by "pedestrian safety".

Pedestrian safety is looking at the amount of damage that a car could do to pedestrians in an accident. It comes down to how the car is built. Things like no sharp edges, no hard materials, no dangerous liquids can leak out etc.

It is quite the opposite of what Massa Elon had in mind when he designed that silly truck. And that's why this is a topic at all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

no one intends to hit a pedestrian with the car they are buying

pssh, speak for yourself

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't the existence of this modded truck prove that statement wrong? Because I'm pretty sure you made the only statement explicitly refuted by the existence of this truck.

Congratulations?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

It's not actually any safer, they taped thin rubber strips over the exposed edges. Someone's friends with an inspector who played dumb, me thinks.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Parents, maybe? They are usually so concerned about children's safety, whether that's their kids or someone else's.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

No, most parents will consider vehicle safety for their kids, airbag effects on toddlers, scoring on side impacts, etc... and don't give two shits about other people's kids.

[–] [email protected] 85 points 5 months ago (2 children)

If I see one in europe im going to vandalize it.

We didn’t need your f150’s and we don’t need this. If you love american cars so much just fucking move you complex filled husk of a man.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Wait, what?

Since when is vandalism a good thing?

[–] [email protected] 58 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Berlin Wall

Confederate Statues

Thatchers Grave

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Kind of a stretch, comparing a Cybertruck to symbols of oppression, division and slavery, isn't it?

Feels disrespectful to all those that suffered under the DDR/Slavery, don't you think?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

yea but cYbErTrUcK bAD, aMeRicAnS fAt and sChTeWpEd so thats funny and allowed

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (3 children)

What's your issue against F150s?

[–] [email protected] 72 points 5 months ago (2 children)

They are completely inappropriate and dangerous on European roads.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Minor correction:

They are completely inappropriate and dangerous on all roads.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

I guess they might be appropriate for some roads (in poor or very rural countries)

But not here

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I assume they are talking about the newer models that have worse sight lines than literal tanks.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm still pissed the EVs were discontinued.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Yeah... that was a bummer. I don't think cybertruck and its mountain of failures is helping the case for "macho" evs

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Not sure what qualities a car has to make it macho, but I saw a Fiskar Ocean the other day on the road in matte forrest green, and thought it was pretty sexy. I don't know their pitfalls yet, but it was enough to make me look them up. Not a fan of the giant screen in the middle, but maybe it would grow on me.

Edit: and they might be declaring bankruptcy and selling off their assets... Welp that sucks

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I was hoping to get a used one in a few years to use on the farm. The range and load capacity would be well within most errands. I'm now eyeing an Edison Motor's kit for an old square body.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Well true, but have you looked at european SUVs lately? They're getting there and i don't see the EU doing anything to limit dimensions.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This comment is pure Whataboutism. You asked what was wrong with the F150’s and you got answered. And your response is, “well, the european ones are probably gonna do it too!”

C’mon man.

Regardless of who’s doing it, it still sucks and is bad.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And of course it’s a techbro lmfao. You can’t make this shit up.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

Easy, domestic auto producers bribe politicians to make it illegal for foreign automakers to compete in the US because if it were alllowed, domestic automakers would get destroyed.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't think it would be difficult to get the IMV up to compliance with US regulations. If they're selling it in Mexico, it'll be required to have airbags. The hood looks long enough to have engineered in proper crumpling in a crash. Things like backup cameras might require a little bit of retooling, but that's not actually super expensive compared to the other expenses of officially bringing it in: the 25% import tax, a parts and service network, etc.

So it's a business decision not to even try to get it into the U.S., informed by those regulations.

In contrast, something like a kei truck wouldn't be easy to get street legal as a new car in the US: no crumple zone and higher center of gravity are more fundamental safety issues that can't easily be engineered around.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

In contrast, something like a kei truck wouldn't be easy to get street legal as a new car in the US: no crumple zone and higher center of gravity are more fundamental safety issues that can't easily be engineered around.

Meanwhile every landscaper is buying brand new Isuzu trucks that are just larger version of kei trucks. The reason they arent legal isnt saftey, but it would eat into the profits of the big 3.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago

I haven’t read wired in a few years, and it looks like I haven’t missed anything.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

Wow. Such a confused writer. Such a terrible post.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

I love the dacia spring mentioned in the article 😍 most price efficient car out there 😁 it is lightweight and max power is just enough 👌🏻

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Uglier than the Cybertruck? I don't think so.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

🤣as if I would care how a car looks 😅 what does it change? You see it from the inside, mostly. And personally I don’t think it is ugly, so your statement is wrong. You may say you think it is ugly which is an opinion that anyone is allowed to have. Saying it is ugly is said as fact, which is not possible for ugly/beautiful, since those can not be scientifically measured.

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