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[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Most people that vote third party wouldn't vote otherwise. Assuming that every vote for Jill Stein would've gone to Hillary is quite the assumption. I always vote third party, so assuming my current vote for Jill Stein would've gone towards Harris instead is just dumb and wrong.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Democrats who are actually concerned about Republicans should be pushing hard for ranked choice voting.

These memes make Democrats feel good, but only annoys third party voters.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago (5 children)

I love how entitled to peoples votes the democrats are.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago (8 children)

Voting third party in a first past the post voting system ensures you get the candidate you want the least.

Third party is not a solution to a two party system but it does disproportionately affect democratic votes who want change and don't blindly vote. That's why it's often with Republican interests that these 3rd parties are funded in the first place.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago (6 children)

Thank you for revealing what you are so I can block you

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (18 children)

This proves that left leaning holdouts have real leverage. The Dems need us to win and if they want our votes they have to appeal to our values.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I'll never forget what third party voting gets us; additional fucking choices beyond the dominant two-party system, encouraging broader participation. When a Republican or Democrat candidate loses any race, it's common to see them use third party candidates as a scapegoat.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (5 children)

Except it doesn’t. Not in presidentials anyway.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

These numbers are ~~not~~ correct according to NY Times

Edit: I can’t math

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (33 children)

If you don’t like stein, consider voting party for socialism and liberation instead.

They’re running Claudia de la Cruz on a platform of Palestinian statehood and an end to arms shipments to israel.

I found out recently that they’re on the ballot or have official write in status in 42 states, so unless you’re in Alaska, Nevada, Montana, South Dakota, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Georgia or Pennsylvania go for it!

E: forgot Nevada. They’re not officially recognized in Nevada.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

It's Jill Stein's fault the dems ran Hillary, it was all her master plan all along. She's also the one who did whatever the email shit was that people screamed about for 6 years. She must be stopped before she makes the administration do something crazy like supporting genocide

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Move right to appeal to Republicans

They don't vote for you, lose anyway

Noooooo this is all Jill's fault.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Your username says Seattle but your political views are more rural Washington.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

https://www.nj.com/politics/2024/10/harris-vs-trump-spoiler-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud.html

We are not in a position to win the White House, but we do have a real opportunity to win something historic, we could deny Kamala Harris the state of Michigan. And the polls show that most likely Harris cannot win the election without Michigan.”

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago

Then maybe Kamala should stop glazing Israel's d. so much and actually do something to win back michigan muslims. They'll either vote third party or won't vote at all. The trumpists will vote Trump anyway. This post is purely delusional if you think you'll win some voting groups back just by dragging third party candidates through the mud. Especially voting groups so deeply involved in some issues that your beloved candidate clearly doesn't care about at all.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago

The Green Party thanks Lemmy for all the publicity it has brought to the Jill Stein campaign

[–] Userpc933 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Evidence that third party votes would of voted otherwise? If people don't like any candidates, they might not vote at all

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (4 children)

North America’s electoral systems are so broken. It’s painful to see so much negativity, frustration, and fear directed at third parties in general. If that same energy was directed towards building a ranked choice voting system with proportional representation, like single transferable voting (STV), the duopolies would crumble and we could all actually vote for whoever we want without having to worry we might end up with the worst candidate winning.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

Every one so excited to back the lesser of two evils and wondering why things are the way they are

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Never forget that in 2016 13% of Trump voters voted for Obama in 2008/12. Maybe the Democratic Party can share some blame, instead of just shaming the voters.

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