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Thousands of supporters, including Usher, rally in battleground Georgia, as campaign focuses on early votes

Kamala Harris highlighted the threat to women’s reproductive rights and Donald Trump’s apparent exhaustion at a rally Saturday in south Atlanta, continuing a full-court press for votes in Georgia as early voting breaks records here.

The race continues to appear close in Georgia, with polls suggesting the Republican nominee holds a one-point lead in the state. Trump has made multiple appearances in Georgia and has a rally with Turning Point Action planned in Gwinnett county, outside Atlanta, next week.

However, the National Rifle Association canceled a planned Saturday rally with Trump in Savannah, citing a “scheduling conflict”. Trump has also canceled several news interviews over the last week.

The Trump campaign has angrily pushed back against a suggestion raised by a staffer that Trump had been exhausted by the appearances. But Harris has seized the idea as a rallying cry.

“And now, he’s ducking debates, and canceling interviews because of exhaustion,” Harris said. “And when he does answer a question or speak at a rally, have you noticed that he tends to go off script and ramble, and generally for the life of him can’t finish a thought? … Folks are exhausted with someone trying to have Americans point their fingers at each other. We’re exhausted. That’s why I say it’s time to turn the page on that.”

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Harris returned to familiar themes on a day of perfect Atlanta weather, describing the “opportunity economy” as one that brings down the cost of living for prescription medication, groceries and housing through anti-price-gouging initiatives, while providing financial support for new parents and entrepreneurs.

Extending Medicare coverage for home healthcare services would prevent working adults from having to quit a productive job or spend down savings to take care of aging parents. “It’s about dignity,” she said in the city’s Lakewood Amphitheater.

Harris will attend services Sunday at New Birth Missionary Baptist Church, a majority-Black megachurch in the heart of Atlanta’s Black suburbs in south DeKalb county. New Birth and other large Black churches in Georgia traditionally organize a “souls to the polls” push on Sunday early voting days.

sounds like we are getting another four years of relying on Christian and corporate goodwill to fill in the gap brought on by nonliving wages and a lack of universal healthcare

nothing out of Harris about living wages, police reform like the Cop City she passed on the way to Atlanta, nothing about protecting the environment, nothing about the rise of homelessness, nothing about the senior centers here in the US that are understaffed in buildings that are not kept up

she knows nothing about having to make hard choices regarding the care of elderly parents at home just like with her summer job at McDonalds she knows nothing about going without healthcare or struggling to pay high energy costs or having to pay out of control housing costs or the out-of-control vehicle insurance costs

Harris came out as a sheep in wolf's clothing but the closer we get to elections the more we see she is just a wolf in sheep's clothing

[–] [email protected] 49 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Right so let's allow the serial adulterer, racist, sexist, convicted felon who has no respect for rule of law or democracy win. And then when he proves too senile to serve (or dies) we'll be treated with a President Vance who is ready to open the portcullis for Heritage Foundation and Project 2025 fascist goons into the castle.

Harris might not be your favorite candidate. She may not currently be campaigning on issues that are the most important for you. But the alternative is unconscionable.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Harris is not campaigning on any issue that is important to most citizens

forgot she is going to help people who have enough income to buy house at a discount

that will help so many people and fix homelessness

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Here's a thought experiment. Between the two likeliest candidates, who would you rather assemble some ikea furniture with, Trump or Harris? Who would you rather go on a road trip with? Who would you rather be stranded at sea with? You can keep escalating these scenarios until the stakes get higher and higher. At some point it should dawn on you that Trump cannot fend for himself. He is unpleasant to work with. And that he is untrustworthy as a teammate. On a fundamental level he is the worst person of the two. Handing him the keys to the country is suicidal.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

just because one of the choices is worst does not make the other bad choice any better

this is the kind of logic that got the US in this boat to begin with along with lowered education standards, low minimum wages, and pollution

but hey Harris is not Trump and sure that the fact she is not Trump will save us all

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago

You're either a moron, a troll, or both.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The fact that one is the worst does in fact mean that the other one is better by definition. We aren't voting to fix western civilization in one fell swoop, we're voting for the 2024 united states president. The pragmatic choice is the best available candidate, which is probably the one who doesn't discuss shooting people on 5th avenue, or grabbing women by their genetials, or mock reporters with disabilities, or make reference to "shit hole countries", or salute the dictator of North Korea, or get convicted of 34 felonies, or say that Israel should just "finish the job", or who isn't 78 years old. Call me crazy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

what will the Democrats do in 2028 without Trump? who will they say they are better than in the next election?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If you wish to find out, I recommend voting for the candidate that is most interested in preserving the democratic process, rather than the one who idolizes dictators, doesn't support the peaceful transfer of power, and who's party is held together by gerrymandering. Furthermore , if you wish to improve our democracy I recommend the ticket discussing ranked choice voting, and who are interested in eliminating the electoral college.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

For the sake of argument, let's just say sure, both sides gerrymander just as egregiously (which frankly, they do not.) This would makes it a wash balancing out pros and cons of either choice as it relates specifically to the 2024 presidential race. Which leads us back to the world of pragmatism. Which candidate is liklier to encourage greater voter turnout and representation if elected? Probably not the guy who represents the party that is removing scores of names from voters rolls. Probably not the guy who opposes mail in ballots. Of the two options, which candidate would benefit more from voter suppression? Probably the guy who won the election for just the fifth time in our countries history while simultaneously losing the popular vote in 2016. Probably the guy who called Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to pressure them to "find 11,780 votes" and overturn the state's election results from the 2020 presidential election. Of the two candidates in the 2024 presidential race, only one of them stands to benefit by more votes being cast and counted in subsequent elections. Therefore Harris is once again, the likeliest hope for improvement.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Honestly, I would pay several dollars to watch Trump try to put together a billi shelf. (Understanding that it might be a several hour endeavor)

If that might get cheesed out because it's large (and requires helper), maybe a smaller kallax.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

on any issue that is important to most citizens

I'd argue there's one that's definitely important to roughly half the population.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

It's so crazy the president can fix every issue but decides not to smh

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Including Usher!! Holy shit!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

At least she's not still campaigning with fucking neocons. Early voting records might give us some possible ways she might be able to upset the apple cart. But we have to acknowledge how poorly her campaign strategy has been to give up all momentum and move backwards throughout the swing states.

Specifically, Georgia ain't shit if you've lost Michigan. Still some time on the clock but she really needed to pivot last week.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Michigan is the state that she’s doing best in currently thankfully

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

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