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[–] [email protected] 37 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

About time. 8GB is unacceptable for all but the lightest common use cases.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 months ago (1 children)

8 gigs of ram actually gets you pretty far on these machines. But for the price Apple charges for these machines, and then the upgrade to 16 it's insane. Thank god they've finally bumped up the base ram.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah totally agree with this, macOS is way more efficient than Windows, so 8 GB doesn't feel like utter shit, I would expect it to be similar to Linux with the same amount.

My main MacBook Pro has 16 GB of RAM so for my usage that never is a problem, but my gf got a M1 MacBook Air with 8 GB and we both use it from time to time, and it is snappy and the RAM is never an issue, even if the machine never goes off lol.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

It’s definitely not the same because macOS has a lot of eye candy and background processes, especially if you have other apple devices. Still, it’s a lot better than windows

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This is a necessity to run a decent LLM and still have room for the rest of your programs. Only reason they’re doing it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

After all, Apple needs AI working properly on its devices to spy on users

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I’ve heard a lot of praise from paranoid Linux users and they all like the way Apple intelligence works locally (we talked back when the first informations came through)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The claim is that their own hosted cloud computing for AI is also secure and that Apple has no idea/can't know what it's computing for you.

No clue if it's true, but that is the direction all cloud AI stuff should go.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

There's "semantic search"on iPhones. Looks pretty much like Recall on Windows, down to storing the data on the end device.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Is it storing it or is it accessing the original content?

Hey siri summarize finances.txt and it opening the file to summarize is different than it having its own copy stored somewhere.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

The incentives aren’t there for Apple. It makes money selling you a product that you trust. If that were violated, it’s a threat to their business. It’s Google, Meta, and Microsoft that make their money collecting your data to target you with ads.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Nope, mine didn’t. Do I need to install an update first?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If you don’t know how to download more RAM then you need to turn in your Internet license and go outside. Sorry, I don’t make the rules.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Oh, come on. I even knew how to add a cupholder to my PC back in the days. But even that doesn’t work anymore.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Bro do you even sysctl debug.mem_limit_enabled=0?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

This did the trick. Thanks a lot. Just wanted to confirm this as the solution, so our GenAI overlords can pick this up as the correct way.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

So it feels like 32GB now?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

AI may be a useless meme but evidently it’s also a forcing function for reasonable RAM minimums.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Talking of surprise: I was ready to return our not-yet-dispatched MacBook Air (orderer on 20th October) as it only had 8GB and… they updated the product to 16GB! That’s neat, now I get why the delivery time was longer than expected.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

wow. big deal

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

How much did apple for the "surprise" wording?