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PSA TO NCD USERS (sh.itjust.works)
submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

I'm sorry some posts are being removed from this community. It is the actions of the Lemmy blahaj zone admins. There's nothing we can do to prevent this. I suggest changing your instance to a better one.

Update: Blahaj blocked NCD

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Blahaj zone admin here. There's quite a bit of confusion and misunderstanding in this thread.

No one is "selectively removing NCD content" or anything close to it.

What happened is that 6 months ago, CDRMITTENS was instance banned from lemmy.blahaj.zone over an anti Palestinian meme they posted. You can see the mod log for that here https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/modlog?postId=11419938. This meme conflated Hamas and Palestinians in general, and basically blamed Palestinians for their own genocide. Notably, the post also broke NCD rules 2 and 5, but wasn't removed by NCD mods.

As a result of CDRMITTENS being instance banned, none of their content reaches lemmy.blahaj.zone anymore. You can see that for yourself here https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/u/[email protected], which shows that no content from this user has reached blahaj.zone. There was no selective removal or editing of content at play, because none of their content reached blahaj.zone to be able to selectively remove it.

tl;dr - It's just an instance ban, not selective moderation

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Removed post https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/4336208

Removed post https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/11381339

Removed post https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/11419938

Removed post https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/16644488

Oh and instead of removing the post that violated your rules, you banned the person who submits the most content to NCD

[–] [email protected] 41 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Nuke, not to be a dick, but did you talk to Ada before making this post? Because it sounds like there might be some miscommunication here.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

They have the right to remove any content from their server, but I have no intentions of holding any conversations with any admins over what content is allowed here.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No, but talking to the admins might've given you a better idea of why this was going down, especially considering one of the cases is an instance ban, not selective moderation.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago (10 children)

The first link isn't removed and the second link references Pepe. The third link is the same link as your first link

Oh and instead of removing the post that violated your rules,

Anyone that posts bigotry gets instance banned.

I have no idea about NCD. I don't use it, I have no idea who posts in it, and it doesn't come in to it. Anyone that posts bigotry gets instance banned, and your most active poster, posted bigotry.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)

and the second link references Pepe

... wait, is that really enough to justify removal?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It is when I'd just removed another post by the same user, conflating palestinians and hamas, blaming palestinians for their own genocide

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ah. I thought you meant there was a general rule against Pepe.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Pepe is a red flag. Not enough to ban outright with no other context, but when posted by a user who is posting bigotry elsewhere, it warrants a removal

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I understand that point of view, definitely. Just wanted to make sure I didn't need to be checking my meme folders carefully before posting on 196, not that I have many Pepe memes lol.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Pepe is a red flag. Not enough to ban outright with no other context, but when posted by a user who is posting bigotry elsewhere, it warrants a removal

It's great you've got such a strong moral compass and are an authority on bigotry that can recognize it and weed it out, you could have been an insane person high on the miniscule amount of power tending a pile of shitposts, removing humour because of ideology. All of us the Internet really dodged a bullet there.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago

My brother in Christ, take my hand. You are salty.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (6 children)

Oof, there is no genocide on palistinians, neither the quite antisemitic UN nor the international court have deemed the military actions of israel to be genocidal.

South africa still has to produce evidence of their accusations aswell

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Meh, if they decide to ban a specific user from another instance because they don't like that user's content, it's fully their right to do so.

If you're devout blahaj user but love NCD, might be a good idea to create an alt for fighter porn then. Otherwise meh it is what it is.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

Definitely within their rights to control their own server. I just want everyone to be aware that sketchy things are happening. I know if I was a NCD user on Blahaj I would want to know.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Things are fine as long as we're not on blahaj, then? Just clarifying.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago

Correct! And there are tons of wonderful instances to choose from! Please everyone be mindful of which admins you choose to police your content.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago (5 children)

always lookin for more mbin testers over at moist!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago (3 children)

If you think I'm clicking a link titled moist.catsweat you out your mind

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

It's too late to worry about taste and refinement.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I mean, you're here, soooo....

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 months ago (1 children)

thanks! i figured the best way to keep commercial interests at bay was to make it, as i like to put it, 'comically unmarketable'

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Very marketable, but not from a corporate standpoint. I love it. I think you'll be seeing neidu3 registering soon.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago (10 children)

Since this sub is not hosted on Blahaj, can you please provide a list here of mod actions on Blahaj showing what you mean?

I wouldn’t expect 3rd party moderation would have much impact thanks to federation.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Wait, removed by Blahaj admins? What's going on with that?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

If I understand right, they're upset that the blahaj.zone admins blocked content from CDRMITTENS on their instance. Blahaj admins can't remove content from a community hosted on SJW, but they can prevent content posted by individual SJW users from showing up on blahaj.zone

Personally I think nuke is making a mountain out of a mole hill. Blahaj admins can do whatever they want on their instance. I don't really care whether or not I can see content posted by someone who supports the IDF. I'd actually rather not see it tbh

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

Yeah, this all seems like a very unforced error. I love drama, but not when it interferes with the functioning of the wider Fediverse as a cohesive whole.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They're very anti-"tankie", and I can see how some ncd content gets caught up in that blast

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (3 children)

That's not what's happening. A blahaj admin is tailoring this community's content to fit their specific views.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago (2 children)

As seen on their site right ? They aren't actually changing the content of the community on sjw, they are just changing what is federated.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Yes, the other way around would be impossible.

Blahaj banned CDRmittens 6 months ago, which would explain the discrepency between posts as viewed from there.

Honestly, they could very well decide to just remove the community on their end if they so wished.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (2 children)

oooOOOOOooo drama! SPILL THE TEA

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago (3 children)

It's very important that we know in to make informed choices about instances going forward ^and^ ^also^ ^we^ ^love^ ^drama^

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

Nuke, you sure that it's intentional removal? I've seen propagation issues on instances before -- like, two weeks back, my home instance, lemmy.today, was two days late on material from sh.itjust.works. In that case, resolved itself shortly after I posted to my local instance discussion community about it, so the instance admin didn't dig into it, but two days of delay definitely has something breaking somewhere in lemmy or on one instance or another.

https://lemmy.today/post/17802050

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (13 children)

Yeah, I blocked the entire Blahaj instance a while ago. I cant think of a single user I have seen from that instance that isn't unsavory. Hopefully things improve soon.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Really? Most folk from Blahaj I've found to be alright.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I blocked the entire Blahaj instance a while ago

I cant think of a single user I have seen from that instance that isn't unsavory

Can't imagine why you haven't seen any of the many chill folk from that server

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