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[–] [email protected] 47 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Also fuck greedy investor urbanism. Valencia spent an enormous amount of time and money to redirect a river prone to flooding outside of the city. And then promptly urbanized the risky flood plain with housing and commerce.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Fuck investors in general. The DPRK had it right, as did Mao. Off with their heads.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

They killed people they felt threatened by, and that they couldnt use. Teachers, doctors, authors, scientists, philosophers, social critics, journalists, midwives, artists, performers. Those are the people that died at the hands of Mao and Kim, not the capitalists whose wealth they both needed. Mao was all about investment into collectivist systems, one of the biggest factors driving The Great Leap Forward was the need to quickly develop new sources of domestic investment. And the DPRK is just a corrupt Juche system, they love foreign investors (and holding them for ransom!). Just because a few people you don't like incidentally died in the purges too doesn't mean they had "the right idea", and it's sickening to see you spout that revisionist BS here.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

Tankies gonna tankie

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

yeah we desperately need another uprising, "investors" will not guilliotine themselves.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Jesus fucking Christ. I get advocating for less car reliance but cheering the deaths of people just for owning cars is beyond fucked.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Its black humor, not cheering the deaths of people. It's pointing out that we've been warning the world for years that exactly this will happen, and now it has in a way that resembles a system correcting itself. There's no joy in hilighting this, just ironic tragedy and the laughter of the gallows.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

The comment is likely gone now but there was someone cheering in the comments.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

And had they replied to that comment they would have had a point.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

"I will shed no tears for any car owner killed in this disaster. They got what they deserved. For everyone else, I wish I knew where to donate toward any relief funds.” -- [email protected]

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Who are cheering the death? The post had no mention of dead people.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

It absolutely does. Fucking look at it. You can't take the dead people out of this photo, you can't pretend they're not there.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

I see no corpses in the photo. There is nothing to suggest those cars are occupied.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

But the people might not own the cars, they're entirely separate

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I don’t see any people in the pic other than the ones walking at the top of the frame.

Are there dead bodies there that I’m not seeing?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The comment was removed but it was there and it had a depressing number of up votes.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

This one?

Wow, 2 opvotes vs 52 downvotes. Soo depressing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

The post was new at the time and there were no downvotes.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)

People can hate cars AND help humans in need, even car users.

Flooding wouldn't be so bad without global car dependency.

I'm sorry for all the losses the people have to endure, but after this is over, there needs to be a discussion how to prevent disaster like these or minimise their impact on human and general environment.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Flooding wouldn’t be so bad without global car dependency.

because of climate change or...?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Reduced inpacts of climate change but more importantly better urban design. Long, straight, impermeable roads guide water wherever it wants to go with little resistance or slow downs. Cities can be built to be more permeable to handle water better, they can also implement stomwater retention and detention ponds.

Many cities currently waste lots of space on asphalt for cars. We could build transit with permeable surfaces (such as grassy tram lines or cycle lanes designed from permeable materials). We could build less parking lots and save that space for stormwater ponds.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

The financial, spatial and carbon economy of motorised private transport is inefficient, including its infrastructure. Opportunity costs of missing climate action due to economical reliance on private transport, spatial constraints of land use for traffic and inefficient housing (private transport induced sprawl) are just two examples for that.

Climate change fuels flooding frequency and severity, so fueling climate change with fossil fuelled private transport is irresponsible.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So brave to seize on a natural disaster and massive human tragedy. How proud of yourselves you must be.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago (1 children)

“Natural” disaster.

This is like when republicans whine about how inappropriate it is to criticize loose gun regulations after a mass shooting.

No. This is exactly the time to bring it up.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

There is no republican party in Spain. lol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_Spai

Edit: lol, apparently facts hurt people’s feelings here

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

But they do still have analogies in spain, right? The flood didn't wash away a fundemental facet of human communication?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I’m aware. Just using a situation familiar to many Lemmy users as an analogy. I don’t live in Spain so perhaps there is a similar form of ignorance there but I would not know.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I guess fuck all the buildings and lives as well, right?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

The destruction of automobiles during a disaster which was made far worse as a result of climate change is a very poignant juxtaposition.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

So basically, a submission that places fuck cars users at the level of this guy. Makes sense, fits all my expectations for them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

The responses to this on the other post were the same, punitive and wrathful with no space left for critical thinking.

How many people shop online then consume media showing the impacts of climate change or reports of warehouse working conditions within the delivery window? How many "fuck cars" users also subscribe to gentle parenting content? How many were raised in Christian homes and currently hold negative views on religion generally?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

what if carbomb?