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A Federal Emergency Management Agency worker has been fired after she directed workers helping hurricane survivors not to go to homes with yard signs supporting President-elect Donald Trump, the agency’s leader said in a statement Saturday.

“This is a clear violation of FEMA’s core values and principles to help people regardless of their political affiliation,” FEMA Administrator Deanne Criswell said. “This was reprehensible.”

The agency did not identify the employee, nor did it say where it happened.

But Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, calling it “targeted discrimination” of Florida residents who support Trump, said it happened in Florida.

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[–] [email protected] 112 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Not that I agree with this but on some level it could be construed as self-preservation after the hunting parties in western NC

[–] [email protected] 63 points 5 months ago

"Don't go where they're likely to shoot you" could so easily be construed as "Don't go where there's Trump signs."

[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 months ago

That's exactly what I was thinking.

[–] [email protected] 84 points 5 months ago (1 children)

How much do you want to bet it was just a guy saying "Hey be careful with trumpers because they like to shoot at us." political discrimination my ass. Wolves whining because a sheep won't jump into their teeth.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

Don't forget, only a few weeks ago we had "Armed Militia 'Hunting FEMA' Causes Hurricane Responders to Evacuate".

FEMA has also been accused by former president Donald Trump and other Republicans of not being able to respond well enough to Helene because it had diverted disaster relief funds to help migrants. That is not true

This wouldn't help FEMA workers feel safe.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 5 months ago (1 children)

These professional perpetual victims get a whiff of any actual perceived slight against them and they just cum in their little pants don't they?

In reality, if anything, someone probably said "We know the trump supporters have been threatening FEMA workers, if you don't feel safe about the houses with trump signs, you don't need to put yourself in what you feel is a dangerous position. You can skip those homes and we'll help those people when/if they file with the office"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

These professional perpetual victims get a whiff of any actual perceived slight against them and they just cum in their little pants don't they?>

No surprise the root of this comes from modern christianity. In their mind anything they can call persecution adds credit (increased self-righteous bs) to their own dogma. Of course when they do it to other people they are saving them from hell so just about anything goes.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I wish I could be outraged. I really do.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What they did was so fucking wrong and so fucking understandable.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago

I mean, I wouldn’t want to get attacked by a conspiracy theorist (that sounds wrong) either.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 months ago (1 children)

While this type of behavior is pathetic. Any news article that cannot even mention the county of where this happened is likely propaganda.

So take it with a grain of salt

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

But Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, calling it “targeted discrimination” of Florida residents who support Trump, said it happened in Florida.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah im not trusting desantis who has a track record of spreading lies and misinformation. Obviously hes going to say florida because thats where the “source” is coming from and not to mention he is gov of Florida

Hes not going to specify what county because thats when things can really be confirmed.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The Daily Wire first reported on the incident, citing internal correspondence between the employee and workers canvassing homes in Lake Placid, Florida, in which the employee instructed them to “avoid homes advertising Trump.” Source

An employee with the Federal Emergency Management Agency has been fired after reports that in the aftermath of Hurricane Milton, the employee told relief workers in Florida to pass over houses with signs supporting Donald J. Trump, the agency said Saturday. Source

The employee's actions were first reported by the conservative news site Daily Wire. The Daily Wire reported that the employee gave the instruction to workers who were responding to Hurricane Milton in Lake Placid, Florida. Source

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Thats good stuff thanks for the sources

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Florida isn't a county

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

The fact is that he said he doesn’t know about Project 2025 at that debate.

Lying liar lies again.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

If there were death threats against people working for me, I'd tell them to avoid those people, too. It's not discrimination. It's a safety issue. A lot of them were threatening to shoot FEMA workers if they violated their property.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

no, you must prioritize rescuing people defunding the rescuers. this is important.

desantis can fuck right off though. wasn't he one of the ones pushing for defunding fema?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Great display of double standards here again. It's fascism when they do it but perfectly understandable when we do.

Being fine with this mean you're no better than the people you oppose.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If a bunch of people wearing the same uniform routinely threaten your life, you're going to start avoiding people in that uniform. It's not a double standard, it's preservation of life.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

Treating every Trump voter as a bigot is no different that treating every democrat as a communist. Can't really blame people for not voting for communists, can you?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago

Were democrats the ones hunting down FEMA? You're forgetting (or ignoring) the fact that Trump supporters, who identified themselves as such, were the ones who made active threats against the lives of FEMA members. Your democrat boogeyman doesn't exist in this scenario.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

What communists? I didn't realize we had a communist on the ballot... Ever. Maybe Eugene Debs? So over 100 years ago.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

If the Democrats were communists, instead of milquetoast centrist corporatists, you might have a point.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Except Democrats are capitalist pigs.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm just going to leave this here. It obviously has no bearing on what you're saying.

Paradox of Tolerance

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Implying that every Trump voter is a fascist is idiotic and highlights just how out of touch political activists on social media are - regardless of which party they support.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Voting for a fascist makes a person categorically a fascist. And by accepted measures of fascism, such as Umberto Eco's Ur-Fascism, you'd have to do some major rhetorical gymnastics to conclude anything else.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Perhaps the people voting for Trump see him differently than you do?

This argument could just as well be flipped the other way around; voting for a communist makes a person categorically a communist.

You don't think Kamala is a communist? Exactly.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No one with any intellectual honesty thinks that Harris is a communist.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Maybe she's not but her father was a marxist economist. Maybe that doesn't mean anything to you but would you think the same about Donald's father if he was a literal fascist? I doubt it.

You just keep assuming everyone sees the world the way you see. "No one with any intellectual honesty thinks that Harris is a communist." is no different that the right claiming "No one with any intellectual honesty thinks that Trump is a fascist."

If you want to win elections you need to get some of the people who voted for Trump to vote for your candidate the next time. Calling them fascists is not helping. It already got you Trump twice.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

First, it doesn't matter what Harris or Trump's fathers believed, Harris is not a communist and Trump is a fascist based on their own stated beliefs and the policies they promoted while in office and running for election.

Second, it doesn't matter what people perceive. What matters is reality. I'd wager most Nazis didn't think of themselves as bad people. They were still fucking Nazis. Similarly, I agree most Trump supporters don't think they are fascist or support fascism. However, their perception has no bearing on whether or not they're actually fascist. And based on their chosen candidate, Trump supporters absolutely bare minimum support fascism.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Maybe she's not but her father was a marxist economist.

So the sins of the father are revisited on his daughter?

Sounds like you're one of those "red scare" peeps buddy. I mostly agreed with you until you popped off with this crap.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

No, we don't actually need to get them to vote for us. Trump got about as many votes this time as he did in 2020. The problem is the people sitting it out.

While I'd like to see his followers see reason, the fact is they voted for him after everything he did as President and 8 years of constantly telling them who and what he is so the only conclusion that makes sense is they voted for him because that's exactly what they want. There's not much we can do to convince them to switch sides without turning ourselves into him.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

So what you are implying is... what? We should tollerate trump voters if they vote for him out of dumbness? If they vote for a nazi, their ideas shouldn't be tollerated at all. Ignorance or evil, no matter the reason, if they vote against democracy, they don't get the privilege of being tollerated. Their ideas are dangerous and should be purged. When they stop having those ideas, we can go back at tollerating their shit. But while their shit is "we want to install a fascist regime", their shit is not to be tollerated. And it's a good thing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

What are you talking about? I said it had no bearing on what you were saying. Why are you feeling so defensive about something that I went out of the way to make sure to say wasn't connected to what you said at all?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

There's a difference tho. This one is self inflicted. They are so full of hate towards the non magas that at a certain point becomes only natural for a non maga to decide that maybe it's not worth risking your life to save this kind of psycho (who is actively working to harm or even kill you).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

Use the block function people. Don't feed the troll.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

I don't blame FEMA workers for not wanting to help people who are literally trying to kill them, frankly.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Thia comment chain trying to justify this action is horrific. Jesus guys have a little compassion for ur fellow humans.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Why should I help a nazi that wants me dead?

Nah mate, first comes my life, then, yours. Basic self preservation. If you want to kill me, why should I risk my life to save yours?

It's sad, but with magas, it's come to this.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Dont u think ur being a little extreme calling all Trump supporters nazis?

U could make a simmillar argument againts the gays helping palestine.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Not really, no. If you voted for trump, you knew his stance on stpff like inmigration, abortion and lgbt+ rights. You either voted him for those or you didn't care about those people as long as you were fine with his other politics. And either way... well, yeah, yow are pretty much a nazi. Actively or passively.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

Uh... That's not really the point here. There are people hunting FEMA workers there for... reasons, so while we don't have the whole story I doubt this was a politically motivated decision as much as one made for self-preservation.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

Oh no, stop, please.

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