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this post was submitted on 19 Nov 2024
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The Enlightened USAmerican that only sees black and white has spoken!
What the fuck is an usamerican
The explicitly not Canadian Americans. Or Mexican Americans. Or Peruvian Americans. Or Argentinian Americans. Or...
You mean usmexican North Americans, surely. But it dosen't matter because no one calls themselves any of that anyway.
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Meanwhile the young far left is calling everyone and each other Nazis and accusing each other of not being left enough. No true left man
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I think you fucked up the choices. It was actually :
Pro genocide
Really pro genocide
Vote for neither and facilitate genocide
TBF, the first two choices would have to be "a lot of genocide" and "much much more genocide".
If Kamala had been elected, the left would have been free to slam her on the Gaza issue, AND she would have been free to break from Biden and say "fuck you" to Netanyahu. She had to toe the line during the election and so did we. Once the election was won, we could have rallied. We'd have been united finally, and she wouldn't have needed Biden anymore. Now instead of pressuring a sympathetic president to end a genocide, we have to arm ourselves to die fighting a fascist president. There is no more path to less genocide. That path closed. All three genocides are gonna happen.
Zelensky is now trying to arm his country with nukes because he knows he can't rely on America. Drag is talking to politicians in drag's country about refugee visas for America. We're all getting ready for mitigation and survival. We could have all been focusing on the Gaza issue instead. We could have done something.
LOL no. The democrats are entirely supportive of israel despite the occasional virtue signaling. I don't understand why people would put Kamala on a pedistal and say maybe she's different.
Once the election was won, we could have rallied. We'd have been united finally, and she wouldn't have needed Biden anymore.
This is not how real life works.
Now instead of a sympathetic president
She's not sympathetic to anyone. You don't become president out of love and good vibes. The options were either vote for nothing to change or vote for trump to make everything worse, yet people post fanfiction on how the US will suddenly be a utopia and we just need to give the dems one last chance
The democrats are entirely supportive of israel despite the occasional virtue signaling. I don't understand why people would put Kamala on a pedistal and say maybe she's different.
The difference is that there are democratic representatives that are supportive of the Palestinian people. Unless you are claiming the Rashida Talib is just virtue signaling her Palestinian ethnicity.
This is not how real life works.
Says the person who voted third party in a two party system......
She's not sympathetic to anyone. You don't become president out of love and good vibes.
No shit, but she is sympathetic to her hold on power. If there is enough noise to challenge her hold, she very well could have had a "change of heart".
people post fanfiction on how the US will suddenly be a utopia and we just need to give the dems one last chance
It's called harm reduction, no is expecting any US political party to solve the countrys problem. Some of us just don't want to live through a fascist regime.
Once the election was won, we could have rallied. We’d have been united finally, and she wouldn’t have needed Biden anymore.
This is not how real life works.
Yeah, drag knows that's not how real life works. In real life, y'all decided fuck left unity, let's have a fascist president and make it every queer for themselves. So now we're making plans to help our loved ones free the country. You think we have time to go to the Gaza rallies when we're worrying about concentration camps? We could have all been at the pro-Gaza rallies. We could have marched, blocked the streets, lit up the media. We don't have time for that now, we're putting our own oxygen masks on first. We could have done something. This was preventable.
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Your comment is complete fantasy. Nothing would change under Harris.
If you think we couldn't have persuaded Kamala to drop Israel's funding, if you think there's absolutely nothing we could have done to help Gaza under any circumstances, then why make Gaza your single issue? You're the one who says there's nothing we could have done. Fine, then you should have continued to do nothing for Gaza, left the fighting for Gaza to us lot, and tasked yourself with preventing the other two genocides Trump was planning on.
The dems getting their asses handed to them and rightfully so across the board should force them to do some deep soul searching, and rile up their out to brunch blue no matter who supporters into giving a shit since they clearly haven’t for the past four years.
Liberal tears are tasty coming from a leftist sick of liberal bullshit. Just this time! Most important election ever! Gotta save democracy! After my team gets in I’ll push them left! so fucking exhausting listening to liberals. LMFAO if you think the left believes that if Kamala won youd be pushing her left. Where were you the last four years?!
These are some good arguments, you should go to Washington and present them to the DNC. This isn't Washington, this isn't the DNC, this is Lemmy. We're not the Democratic leadership, we're just a bunch of anarchists. And we don't buy your argument that you're not responsible for the consequences of your own decisions because a democrat is to blame. You should have done the right thing even if the Dems did the wrong thing. Instead, they did the wrong thing, and you decided to do the wrong thing too. You think you get a free pass because there's someone else to blame for your actions. You don't.
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The dems getting their asses handed to them and rightfully so across the board should force them to do some deep soul searching, and rile up their out to brunch blue no matter who supporters into giving a shit since they clearly haven’t for the past four years.
Lol, and you accuse others of fantastical thinking? When has that ever worked?
The last time this happened is when the democratic leadership pulled together to bump Bernie for Clinton. When Clinton lost to trump, did the Dems do some soul searching and go further left?
Liberal tears are tasty coming from a leftist sick of liberal bullshit.
Brb, gonna elect a fascist to get those liberal tears....
fucking exhausting listening to liberals.
You're not a leftist, you're just a contrarian fuckwit that doesn't understand basic organization and mutual aid.
If you were anything but an armchair leftist, you would have a basic understanding about the importance of popular fronts in leftist history. Some of the most important organizing that allowed leftist governments to come to power in the past have been when leftist anarchist, and yes even the working and middle class, all came together to present a unified front against fascist.
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So much cope in this comment.
Sorry, were you around for the past several elections? Perhaps the 2020 elections where, upon the progressives banding with Biden to get him elected with the expectation that we would be able to "push him to the left", the Democratic party decided that the reason they didn't win more seats was because Progressives had damaged their chances of winning, and they must be marginalized. Or perhaps the 2016 elections where, the target of a long running hate campaign was preferred by the party over the popular progressive candidate who was then blamed for his supporters not being won over. Or the 2012 elections where the incumbent Democrat failed to deliver on progressive policies and was a high water mark for drone strikes, but progressives helped bring the win over the candidate Republicans weren't excited for.
I voted for Harris in hopes that she'd beat out Trump despite how much she and Biden before her discarded progressive policy. I was under no expectation of Progressives being able to do a damn thing to reach her.
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Last two choices are the same.
And the third choice would have to be "I'm fine with either"
Where are all the Democrats saying that Democrats would be anti-genocide after the election?
Guess who is still in power, and guess who just backed out of their ultimatum and refused to reduce military aid to Israel even after they failed to let aid in.
and yet we still find the time to accuse a miniscule proportion of Arab-Americans struggling through trauma most of us can’t imagine instead of literally the men doing the violence
thanks for being sane tho :)
so close! it was actually
- harris
- trump
- and some third parties
on the top of the ballot. this post is to cause division and make you angry, nothing more. nothing is as simple as this bullshit oversimplification and i’m sick of this narrative of attacking a provably insignificant minority instead of attacking the individuals who are still fucking giving unquestioning aid to an apartheid and genocide state
Or, alternatively, this is intended to clown on .ml users, because it's hilarious and accurate. I don't think anybody on lemmy would not be cool with attacking Joe and Kamala and Trump on this issue, and the vote total of your comment clearly shows that lmao. (And let's be honest, you knew it would be popular here too). In fact, lemmy is constantly attacking the US on supporting the Israeli genocide, as they should, but funnily enough, nobody here seems to attack China on the Uyghur genocide, which is the point of this meme. By acknowledging that Israel is committing genocide, China would give further impetus for investigation following the UN report which asked for such regarding the Uyghur genocide.
But whatever I guess
Wouldn’t that have been wild if it were the only thing on the ballot?
The second and third options were basically the same, imo.
Is this advocating voting third party? Because that isn't how first past the post works, third parties won't win.
Is this advocating voting third party?
The exact opposite.
Because that isn't how first past the post works, third parties won't win.
That's why the ambivalent option is the 3rd one, because the only two options they could win are bad but that was the option that so many "anti-genocide" people chose, because moral high ground is more important than trying to engineer practical outcomes.
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