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Not everyone is happy about it being the default.

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[–] Chozo@fedia.io 86 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"Engagement bait" is now the default option. Monetization is the next step.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 46 points 4 months ago (2 children)

"Engagement bait" is also the default option on Lemmy, Mbin, etc.

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not sure about Lemmy, but the default option on Mbin is "Hot", which is just chronological order with boosted comments pushed to the top. Boosting is basically just the microblog way of retweeting, and I believe will add an extra point to the score on the Mbin side.

Could be a bit confusing, since Mbin's definition of "hot" is 95% chronological, but Bluesky's definition has more to do with reply/like ratios.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 6 points 4 months ago

I haven't dived into the source code yet, but while it does seem to weight newness more than e.g. Reddit, it still feels much less than 95% and it's all based on the same principle that upvotes should also determine a bit of what you see. Keep in mind hotness is different from top, an option that Bluesky also has. (I also haven't been able to find which option Bluesky previously defaulted to.)

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That’s for posts, not comments, which is what Bluesky changed.

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 4 months ago

Yeah, by "posts" I meant posts to Lemmy/threads on the home feed. By "comments" I mean the discussion area for each thread.

[–] LovingHippieCat@lemmy.world 41 points 4 months ago (1 children)

X: Old and Busted

BlueSky: New Hotness

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I guess I get why 𝕏 changed their short description on the app store to "🔥Blaze your glory" for a while a year ago now.

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 months ago
[–] FourPacketsOfPeanuts@lemmy.world 36 points 4 months ago

Any% enshitification speed run GO!

[–] jadelord@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No? Mine defaults to "newest"

[–] jadelord@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 months ago

I think it can be configured and it depends on the client to allow it or not.

[–] Novamdomum@fedia.io 23 points 4 months ago (4 children)

So I joined Bluesky over a year ago and have only ever posted a single message "Hi". I've also not liked or commented on any posts. Somehow (especially recently) I am getting followed more and more. I have over a hundred followers now. I'm guessing bots? It's the sudden recent surge over the last couple of months that's interesting.

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 8 points 4 months ago

My wife is on bluesky and she was telling me yesterday she has had a surge of random followers as well, most likely bots. What she was annoyed about is the block feature doesn’t get them to unfollow you or something. And a portion of the bots are porn repost bots.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

The fuck??? I like posts all the time, followed 8 people, and have a few posts.....I have 3 followers.

[–] devfuuu@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You know, they need to make it appear alive and that there are interactions and users so the value raises and people are engaged.

It's how you make money as a company. For everyone else, mastodon.

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[–] 200ok@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago

Has nothing to do with attractiveness. It's the same "hot" vs "new" etc as any other sort

[–] BMTea@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago (4 children)

To be fair having replies in order of time sucks.

[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 43 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It would be best to let the users to choose their own preference.

[–] Assman@sh.itjust.works 40 points 4 months ago (2 children)

You literally can. It's a setting.

[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Yes. And furthermore, if you've changed the setting in the past, this new default sort change doesn't override it.

[–] BMTea@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

You can though I like it.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago

I prefer how X orders them based on how much money you give to Elon Musk

[–] FarceOfWill@infosec.pub 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Weird you're being voted down.

Who wants the terminally online to be the first five replies to every post? It should sort by op like/boost by default at least

[–] Spuddlesv2@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Me. I do. It’s better than the hive mind upvoting some stupid meme reply or some bullshit/misinformation.

[–] FarceOfWill@infosec.pub 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So you only see misinformation if professional disinformation employees are paid to reply instantly, which, they are.

[–] Spuddlesv2@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

I’m not seeing too many professional disinformation employees in here but sure that’s a thing.

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Why do you think that sucks? Chronological order makes everything easier to use and navigate

[–] BMTea@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It biases the first repliers

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[–] Godnroc@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

Funny thing, I had already set my preference to "newest first" and the change was respected after they implemented the new setting.

[–] Alpha71@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Post reply settings also include sorting by oldest or newest replies, most liked, or a random setting labelled "Poster's roulette".

Sooo... You can change the setting.

And?

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The fact they make this the default is the issue... The first babysteps to enshitification has now begun.

[–] Melt@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

This, should have made the previous setting the default one

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

It's the default for most of Lemmy too.

[–] latenightnoir@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I really shouldn't read the news 10 minutes after waking up, my brain was sure this meant that Bluesky was turning into a dating app...

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So... . Whatcha doing tonight? ;)

[–] latenightnoir@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I have a hawt date with my bed, because I'm old and tired ;) :)))

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] latenightnoir@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Oh, yeah, I've been told to tone it down before, my bed and I share too fervent a passion for each other❤️

[–] tja@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Everything can be a dating app /s

(this is sadly true)

[–] devfuuu@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

And the best is still linkedin. Nowhere else do you get desperate woman insisting they want to talk with you.

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[–] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The heck does that even mean

[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

My guess is timeframe vs active interactions of posts. Like a short term popularity metric? Lemmy has it as a sort option.

[–] el_bhm@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They can rank replies any way they want.

[–] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

they can indeed, i simply do not understand what that would actually entail

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