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California Senate approves ban on autonomous trucks::California’s State Senate this week passed a bill which, if signed into law by Governor Gavin Newsom, would require autonomous semi-trailer trucks to have a trained human safety operator whenever they operate on public roads [...]

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just wait until they secretly replace the trained human safety operator with this:

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

I mean airplanes kinda don't drive over people walking on a sidewalk...

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I've seen enough dashcam footage from truck drivers being cut off in traffic and nearly causing a major accident or running over people that this seems like a pretty wise decision until the technology matures.

Trucks have a huge amount of momentum, they can't just slam the brakes like on a Tesla. Humans aren't particularly good at split second decisions but I feel experienced truckers definitely have better guts on how to react than a computer. Fully support requiring someone to keep an eye on it for now.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 years ago

You'd be surprised at how quickly a truck can brake to a complete stop.

But you're right regardless. It's the momentum what makes them dangerous. If a car taps another car for half a second, the damage might be catastrophic. A semi doing the same? Yikes.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Generally no.
A few larger companies do.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I thought the Teamsters were the trucker union and were relatively powerful....

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Teamsters have a freight division but the total teamster membership was 1.3 in 2015 and there were 3.6 million truckers in the United States in 2020, so I wouldn’t say most truckers are in a union.

Teamsters doesn’t disclose what percent of their membership is made up by their freight division

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Don't forget that the package division(ups) is a large chunk of their membership.

According to their website "The Package Division is the union’s largest division, serving hundreds of thousands of members throughout North America."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Dunno shit that. My dad was teamsters, but he was just a warehouse worker.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

Nope. Many are independent contractors.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

According to the article, safety concerns and job protection

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Probably to protect jobs. They are willing to risk our lives in cities since they allow autonomous cars there. So it’s unlikely that they have safety concerns with trucks

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

They'll just go secretive and underground like in that Simpsons episode

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

So California is down with the Decepticons?

Fuck Optimus Prime?

Bold move.