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thereโ€™s more than shown here and itโ€™s more than just these users too ๐Ÿ˜ญ

if you find the thread donโ€™t piss in the popcorn (brigade) but also please maybe donโ€™t bring it back here i donโ€™t want 400 notifications of entry level โ€œis almond milk milkโ€ vegan discourse

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[โ€“] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 81 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (43 children)

Ah yeah, I've had an interaction with that anti-vegan user before, and let me tell ya, if you want to speedrun vegan bingo... ideal discussion partner right there.

[โ€“] jewbacca117@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The happy animals one is hilarious. I would have no problem with someone eating me after I died and I sure as shit am not happy

[โ€“] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 23 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Ah yes. That one is the one where every interlocutor happens to only eat meat "from their uncles farm with 3 cows on 40 acres of pasture, where they're hand-scrubbed by cherubs while eating figs."

[โ€“] jewbacca117@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Aw man I fucked that up. My uncle has 40 cows on 3 acres that get hand scrubbed by figs while eating cherubs.

[โ€“] Wolf314159@startrek.website 13 points 3 months ago

So we're not getting hand milked by 40 cows while getting figged by 3 cherubs.

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[โ€“] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 months ago (7 children)

I don't care about my corpse after I'm dead, but I do somewhat disagree with getting killed.

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[โ€“] nl4real@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago (4 children)

The "Vegans are loud and annoying" crowd are more loud and annoying than actual vegans in my personal experience.

[โ€“] Moc@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Often when society had an extreme default position on a topic, its defenders sound batshit insane.

See:

  • Gay and trans rights
  • Reproductive rights
  • Veganism
  • Unregulated capitalism
  • Homelessness
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[โ€“] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 66 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (74 children)

Transcribing the conversation here:

Recessa, โ†‘4 โ†“1: That's completely idiotic, milk exist because there's demand for it.

commie, โ†‘1 โ†“4: I think you understand that milk is produced as part of the mammalian reproductive cycle. can you describe the causal steps between demanding milk and it's production?

friendlymessage, โ†‘3 โ†“2: Do you think dairy cattle just randomly spawns on the planetary surface?

commie, โ†‘1 โ†“3: do you think there's a direct causal link between drinking milk and more being produced?

friendlymessage, โ†‘3: Are you fucking with me?

commie, โ†‘2 โ†“3: no. I'm trying to illustrate that markets are not governed by natural law; they are populated by irrational actors.

friendlymessage, โ†‘2 โ†“1: Yeah, but they're not as irrational as you are and producing milk costs money. If there's no market, they will stop because they are not fuckin lunatics and they don't have infinite resources

commie, โ†‘2 โ†“2: milk was farmed before markets existed. there is no reason to believe that will ever stop.

friendlymessage, โ†‘3 โ†“1: That... must be the dumbest discussion I've had in a while. Please read through your comments tomorrow when you're sober

commie, โ†‘1 โ†“1: I've been sober all day.

friendlymessage, โ†‘1: Okay, whatever you say

commie, โ†‘1 โ†“2: everything I've said is true. you're objecting to reality, and being pretty shitty about it to me.

friendlymessage, โ†‘2: No, you're just making a no sensical argument at all. Milk was farmed from dairy cattle because it was consumed by humans. It's simple supply and demand. There is no rational argument at all that if mankind stopped consuming milk, it would still be farmed. Why would any farmer go through the effort to upkeep cows and keep them impregnanted to make them produce milk if they cannot trade it or won't consume it? Yes, humans have free will but they won't produce stuff with very high effort just for fun. Except maybe very sick minds that just enjoy animal cruelty. And you won't elaborate what your actual point is anyway.

Also, not that it matters, but you're arguing that dairy farming existed before the market is simply wrong. There has been trade between human civilizations long before we started domesticating animals.

[โ€“] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 22 points 3 months ago (3 children)

There's a common misunderstanding among a lot of .ml folks that markets are a capitalist thing and if you just don't call them that then they don't exist.

[โ€“] socsa@piefed.social 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Obviously nobody drank milk in the USSR shitlib

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[โ€“] Rekonok@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 months ago

Thank you for your service o>

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[โ€“] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 48 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"I've been sober all day." is my new comeback when someone insults my intelligence in an argument.

[โ€“] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I like how the wording may imply that being sober that particular day might be in contrast to other days.

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[โ€“] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 43 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Both of those people are morons. One for making the argument, the other for engaging in the argument.

[โ€“] friendlymessage@feddit.org 65 points 3 months ago (3 children)
[โ€“] friendlymessage@feddit.org 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Just went back to that thread. The discussion continued for 4 more hours after I stopped responding, and no, it did not go anywhere. That was definitely worth everyone's time

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[โ€“] spujb@lemmy.cafe 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

some rhetorical hills were not meant to be treaded, much less died upon

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[โ€“] callmepk@lemmy.world 36 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Reading that kinda hurts my brain

[โ€“] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 37 points 3 months ago (2 children)

What's the causal link between that comment being created and your brain hurting? Brains have hurt since before comment sections existed.

[โ€“] callmepk@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

Thatโ€™s why I have headaches every day

[โ€“] spujb@lemmy.cafe 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

disagree, comment sections are the literal antichrist

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[โ€“] Zelaf@sopuli.xyz 35 points 3 months ago (8 children)
[โ€“] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 17 points 3 months ago

Okay Homelander

[โ€“] credo@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No you donโ€™t; thatโ€™s not possible. You donโ€™t actually know what you like. How could your brain evaluate its own desires? And if you think you do, youโ€™re wrong.

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[โ€“] Decoy321@lemmy.world 34 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 33 points 3 months ago (1 children)

this is 1/100th of the insanity that happened on the reddit sub r/milk
I'm pretty sure there was a riot because the mods said almond milk was allowed or something like that

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[โ€“] tfw_no_toiletpaper@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Mr. President there has been another cat food incident

[โ€“] spujb@lemmy.cafe 12 points 3 months ago

a second low-tier vegan talking point has hit the servers

[โ€“] riwo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

im so happy the comment section here isnt deranged anti-vegan

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[โ€“] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 20 points 3 months ago
[โ€“] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[โ€“] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 33 points 3 months ago (7 children)

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.

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[โ€“] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Milk is the best part of the woman

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[โ€“] socsa@piefed.social 15 points 3 months ago (5 children)

You: hates milke because it is unethical

Me: hates milk because it is fucking disgusting.

We are not the same

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[โ€“] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Raw milk is totally safe....if the cow is totally healthy and if there aren't pathogens floating around the cow.

I mean, my friend next door used to drink off the cows's teats. His Mom would scold him for it, but he did it to show off. We used to milk their three "city cows". Literally the cows would sleep in their garage and then walk to pasture on an every day basis. They would get milked every morning and we would walk to their house and buy a couple of liters from them. Sometimes cheese or bulgaros yogurt.

Everyone loved the cows. They smelled like cows but you could safely pet them and not expect feces on your hands.

The cows we get milk from are all rolling around in feces in confined space and they eat dry moldy feed. Like that stuff is total animal abuse and prone to end up giving someone a cow Bourne disease of some kind.

My neighbors also had pigs and we had pigs. That is why we never ate pig... cows are clean compared to pigs. Pigs will eat bugs smeared in pig feces. That is not normal really because pigs in the wild, although dirty, do not just swim in their feces like captive pigs do. If you ever want to go vegan for whatever reason, visit a captive pig farm. Learn that smell....then go to the butcher shop's trash bin and learn that smell...then realize that when you get your meat in your fridge, the death smell is what you're smelling. Makes me wanna puke ๐Ÿคฎ just thinking about it. And if your neighbors ever killed a pig, you would know it. Pigs don't go down easy. That's one positive thing I can definitely say about pigs. They know you're gonna kill them and they scream like anyone would....as in a person. It churns you inside out hearing that scream and then when it stops you know it happened. Pigs don't go down quietly.

Anyway don't eat animals, but if you're gonna eat milk or dairy, make sure it's pasteurized! Any well understood retarded person like myself could agree ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ‘.

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[โ€“] DBT@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (10 children)
[โ€“] spujb@lemmy.cafe 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (8 children)

only if hot dogs are sandwiches

[โ€“] DBT@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Fuck you and happy cake day

[โ€“] spujb@lemmy.cafe 12 points 3 months ago

bwahahaha thanks i didnโ€™t even notice

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