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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 147 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Reddit supports open dialog as long as they agree with it

[–] Neon@lemmy.world 47 points 3 months ago (16 children)

my brother in christ, I was banned from all lemmy.ml communities (fairphone, signal, selfhosted etc etc) because I dared talk about the uyghur genocide.

Lemmy is even worse.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 77 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

Lemmy.ml is one instance.

Join smaller instances so no one instance can dominate on many topics.

We should avoid creating monopolies.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's not just lemmy.ml... That's the problem with any instance - that an idiot like me can just host one and be "the king". Then a community grows, but the king still sits on the throne - whether he is qualified or not. Reddit had years to get rid of most of those issues with established modteams. Communities that had bad moderation faded away. Communities that "made it" had okayish mods since there were thousands of people to pressure a team acting like a-holes. Lemmy has barely any users compared to that, so a bad admin / moderator is more visible. Also, lemmy is heavily skewed towards echochambers, even more than reddit was.

Splitting communities just creates more issues - with having to crosspost to 2 or 3 groups of people who might not interact with one another. It's honestly no wonder that there exists a "mega instance" in lemmy.world

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Splitting communities just creates more issues - with having to crosspost to 2 or 3 groups of people who might not interact with one another.

!lotrmemes@lemmy.dbzer0.com is taking over !lotrmemes@midwest.social

It mostly took a post on !newcommunities@lemmy.world and a ping to the regular posters

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[–] leftzero 25 points 3 months ago (5 children)

.ml admins (yeah, the lemmy devs themselves, sadly) and mods are tankies, of course they banned you for that.

Just join a sane, smaller instance; that's the beauty of federation (and defederation of harmful instances like .ml or .world or hexbear).

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[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 months ago (6 children)

You missed the beauty though in what happened though. Lemmy isn't worse, one instance was. So here you are still.

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[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 3 months ago (6 children)

I'm glad you're speaking out against Uyghur genocide, but having an israel flag in your username is kinda sus considering what's happening in Gaza.

[–] BlastboomStrice@mander.xyz 7 points 3 months ago

Yeah, I scrolled the comments and kinda surpised almost no-one mentions it. Getting mixed vibes..

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[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 77 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Because "y'all can't behave"

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Eh, as a former Reddit mod, when the majority of comments are racism/transphobia, the easiest way to handle it is to lock the post.

Yeah, it’s kinda laziness, but when you have a life and don’t want to babysit a post for the next day… you don’t really have many options.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 21 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I guess one option could be don’t make a commitment you don’t have time to fulfill.

Let the voting system do its job of crowdsourcing the suppression of unhelpful content.

When I was on reddit it was just a fact that there’d be a pile of trash accumulated at the bottom of each thread, made of comments that were stupid or toxic and collapsed because their score was negative. That layer of shit at the bottom was well-hidden and didn’t interfere with the productive discussion happening above.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 22 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The voting system to suppress content suppresses reasonable views and ends up with highly upvoted nazi shit. Not because everyone is a Nazi (arguable) but because nazis have a motivation to push an agenda.

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 months ago (3 children)

If Nazi shit is highly upvoted, then the community is already lost.

The voting system works, for the most part. Moderation is just to get rid of the early comment bullshit, or cull the already downvoted to hell posts.

I really don't understand when moderators burn entire comment trees or lock threads. It defeats the purpose of the whole system, and makes it look like the community can't do its job.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 months ago

Honestly, it really sounds like you don’t understand moderation on Reddit. The admins can and will come in a couple days later, see that you didn’t handle the removal of content deemed against sitewide rules, then hold the moderation team accountable for not handling it.

Once in a while, or during a huge influx is fine. But repeated “slips” results in the admins taking action against the sub itself, and in certain cases even the mods who are ignoring the problem.

What you are assuming is the case, simply isn’t.

[–] Krudler@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

The voting system only serves to push people's biases to the top. 98% of the top-rated comments on Reddit are worse than trash because they misinform, or are a regurgitation of a commonly-accepted half-truth.

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[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 months ago

Yeeeeah… uh, the problem is that the community I was moderating was formerly pretty unmoderated. A loooot of racist and transphobic shit got upvoted.

“Letting the votes handle it” also doesn’t stop Reddit from seeing reports go unresolved, and action against the sub.

I get where your coming from, but you’re essentially saying “let the racism run rampant if you don’t have the time to manually review every comment on a post, you should have dedicated a few hours of your work day to this.”

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[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"ya'll can't regurgitate your corpo owner's opinions as your own"

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[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 75 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Don't get so haughty. Lemmy.world (based on the Netherlands) deletes posts and bans users that mention support for Luigi.

Earlier today I replied to a post on Lemmy.world about this problem, saw my post had many up votes and replied. But I couldn't respond to any of them because the post had been deleted by mods.

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You are currently in a lemmy.world community. So was this post: https://lemmy.world/post/23467383

[–] DeadWorldWalking@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Lemmy.world has an issue with mods censoring totally legal conversations.

It's a problem going on right now

[–] anothermember@lemmy.zip 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why are you still on lemmy.world then? The freedom offered by federation is that you get a choice.

[–] DeadWorldWalking@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

How do I change this account to a different instance?

Also can't the world admins just censor my comments no matter what instance i am a part of if I comment on a lemmy.world post?

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[–] leftzero 15 points 3 months ago

.world mods and admins are infamous for being as bad as the ones on reddit, yes.

Reasonable instances should probably have defederated that cesspool long ago, but it's probably too big, sadly.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Drag was banned from c/news for "misinformation and trolling" when drag said Luigi isn't the shooter.

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Surely it couldn't possibly be because Drag is a shit-stirrer that goes around causing drama. At this rate I'm surprised Drag isn't banned from more communities.

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[–] Reality_Suit@lemmy.world 68 points 3 months ago (1 children)

First off: Fuck reddit Fuck spez. Second and more important: All he needs is 1 person to agree. 1, that's it.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 75 points 3 months ago (3 children)
[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 36 points 3 months ago (13 children)

And former moderator of r/jailbait, a Reddit community dedicated to posting pictures of underage girls. Don't forget it

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[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Not a great insult to be honest.

[–] 3aqn5k6ryk@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Face only a mother could love.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 52 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

To set the narrative, of course. Reddit made a big showing last year of putting their own choice mods on communities and is now beholden to Wall Street since the IPO

[–] ogmios@sh.itjust.works 28 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Same reason they nerfed the algorithm to change from having new posts on the front page every ~15 minutes, to keeping the same posts there all day long.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Costs too much to vet every popular post to make sure it helps support the establishment. Oh well, here's "puppy sees her owner for the first time in 2 months for 48 hours" (part 2!)

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Lmao they're doing a terrible job at that, they locked it after some comments already made it through, might as well just delete the thread.

[–] sloppysol@lemmy.world 46 points 3 months ago

To censor the lazy?

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 38 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Because you can't tell if it's locked until you open it and give up several ad hits.

Lol

UBlock Origin goes brrrrr

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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 31 points 3 months ago (3 children)

To stop discussion from moving elsewhere

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[–] dumbass@leminal.space 23 points 3 months ago

Because spez is scared that someone will come for him.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 9 points 3 months ago (5 children)

They put threadlocker on it.

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[–] Sebastrion@leminal.space 9 points 3 months ago

I have read Luigi's Mansion....

[–] Chivera@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Free speech

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