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[–] [email protected] 187 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Copyright infringement sucks when it happens to you doesn't it China

[–] [email protected] 47 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Copyright sucks. Brought to you by copyleft gang

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Uh, copyleft still depends on copyright. All it means is that licenses are free so long as the terms are followed, but it still relies on licensing. The actual opposite(s) of copyright is open-source and/or public domain.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Open source licenses also depend on copyright. The opposite of copyright is IP anarchy.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Copyright infringement in China is awesome! It allows one to buy things at a fraction of the cost because of such competition. A lot of western brands’ factories sell the product locally unbranded for 1/10 of the price and it’s awesome

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Copyright infringement also means small creators get their lunch money stolen by big Chinese corporations. Copyright doesn’t just protect corpos.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Yeah the individuals deserve to be protected but I have no care for corpos losing to other corpos

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (8 children)

How does the local economy fair against Western countries? Is it on par?

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[–] [email protected] 93 points 6 months ago (2 children)

"one user wrote" *China

Man, our media really has become utter shait.

[–] the_captain 22 points 6 months ago

The phrase "one user wrote" is often used to introduce a quote. One user wrote this, one wrote that, and another wrote that. Yeah, the generalisation from a single forum thread / few social media posts to "the whole of internet is crazy about this!" is crap, but media sensationalism has always been there. Media (and especially media about pop culture) has always been shit.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

I mean, when you have a few thousand two-bit internet media sites surviving off advertisement spam and hiring any freelance writer that can put together three paragraphs for $5 that's what our media becomes.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I may be wrong but Wukong itself looks a Souls knock-off, so I don't see the problem.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children)

I think the cultural theme of the game is more reason for the "anger" than the gameplay formula.

Its based on the most famous Chinese mythological story / fairytale about the Monkey King Wukong.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_King

I have not deep dived into it, but I think it's a treasured and well known story in China, and I assume a lot of Chinese people are proud of their mythology being a successful story outside of China as well.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Also it's what Dragon Ball is based on and it's a primary influence for most if not all Shonen anime.

Its like getting upset when two different projects are made based on the Greek Pantheon.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (3 children)

This. Also, China upset cause they're being copied? Pfft.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"Folktale" is a better description but I agree

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Just like Dragon Ball is based on that myth, no?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

And I love how much of it is fart jokes

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago

that's the funny thing about genres and knock-offs, the only difference is scale. every game after pong is a knock-off of something that came before, and the great ones are the ones who purposefully or inadvertedly added something that made it a new standard for which to knock off, birthing a new genre. people hate terms like metroidvania or roguelike but imo those are the best genre names because they most clearly communicate the context and intent of the game

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago

The first-person shooter genre used to be called Doom Clones because they were all viewed as rip offs of Doom (which, to be fair, many were). Genre conventions are created by copying what others have done. Souls is a game series, which has been so influential that it became a genre.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 6 months ago

The irony...

[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 months ago

Imagine that! Popular game makes a ton of money and scam companies make shameless ripoffs to try and cash in on it? Never happened before and never will! /s

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Does a company own the likeness of wukong? Seems kinda silly to be mad over that.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No, only a dude from the Ming dynasty does lol

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What is the copyright system like in the Ming dynasty, I wonder.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

That’s an interesting question!

I found this:

The Song's imperial successors, and especially the Ming (A.D. 1368-1644), endeavored to strengthen state control of publication, although relatively few changes were made to the formal structure of regulation until the Qing. Each post-Song dynastic code specifically forbade the unauthorized republication of governmental works on astronomy, the civil service examinations, and other materials long considered sensitive. Additionally, each contained provisions banning "devilish books." These provisions were supplemented periodically by special decrees— as may be seen, for example, in the Hongwu Emperor's (1368-92) orders that all works disparaging the newly founded Ming dynasty even indirectly through the use of homophonic puns be eliminated," and in the Qianlong Emperor's (1736-96) famous decree of 1774 requiring that all literature be reviewed so that any books containing heterodox ideas could be destroyed.

Alford, William P.. To steal a book is an elegant offense: intellectual property law in Chinese civilization. 1995.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

"Let them fight"

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

This reminds me of Breath of the Wild's fans being upset about Genshin Impact.
Of all the reasons to be upset about this gambling game…

(I'm upset that Genshin completed to Impact on my keyboard just now…
I don’t play or have ever even downloaded the game.)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Are they upset or does western media constantly try to portray Chinese internet users as sensitive?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I mean this is pretty standard fare for any gamers, anywhere. But I’m sure this question is being asked in good faith :)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Yes I do mean my comment in good faith

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

idk, but I saw some of the insane shit they were posting when Black Myth: Wukong didn't win Game of the Year at the Game Awards. It wouldn't surprise me if that anger is spilling over to other targets.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Chinese internet users are overly sensitive

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

they are upset, as upset as any normal person is against those meme clickbait garbage videos

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Because I'm not allowed to read the article to know if this is mentioned: a big reason why this would aggravate Wukong fans is that Nintendo is a Japanese company.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Nintendo isn’t the developer though. Having a hard time figuring out where “Global Game Studio” is based out of.

Also, byebyepaywall.com is your friend

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

As if random internet outrage ever cared about getting the fundamental details correct, when there is rage to be had.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

How long before the news reports the game was just stealing your data.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Is it any good?

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