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    [–] [email protected] 216 points 2 months ago (10 children)

    GNOME is more keyboard-focused than KDE. It just also happens to have much better touch support.

    Get this meme to /linuxsucks where it belongs.

    [–] [email protected] 113 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    In my experience, KDE Plasma is surprisingly actually better than Gnome for tablet use. You would think that Gnome's more minimal and chunky UI would make it a better fit, but Plasma just has a lot more little usability QOL features.

    [–] [email protected] 38 points 2 months ago

    This has been my experience as well. Fedora KDE is easier and more intuitive than Fedora GNOME on my Surface Go 2.

    [–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

    Did something change on the keyboard front? I love KDE but I can only use it comfortably on my Steam Deck with a horrible combination of Steam's keyboard, Onboard and Maliit and all of them suck in their own little ways.

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    [–] [email protected] 61 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Yeah, this meme is a complete whiff, just seems edgy/hipster-y while ignoring the fact that nobody really cares because GNOME is a great DE.

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    [–] [email protected] 50 points 2 months ago

    GNOME is more keyboard-focused "in the way the devs thought it's good". If users want to change the way, they gonna use tweaks, dconf editor or gsettings and navigate a jungle of key-value pairs like Windows Registry

    [–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    How is KDE less keyboard-focused? I spent like ten minutes setting up kwin shortcuts and now have the same level of keyboard-only interaction as with any WM.

    [–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (12 children)

    Well, I guess because you don't need to do the ten minutes of setup.

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    [–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    GNOME doesn't have nearly enough keyboard shortcuts for me as a keyboard focused user. IMHO, keyboard use is all about customizability, which GNOME is not.

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    [–] [email protected] 185 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Lets not be deliberately obtuse, you're clearly meant to be using it with your feet.

    [–] [email protected] 70 points 2 months ago

    Just the left foot only

    [–] [email protected] 48 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    TIL Gnome devs have (left) foot fetishism

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    [–] [email protected] 114 points 2 months ago (11 children)

    Gnome does some questionable things, and some are just personal preference, but there is at least one thing that they do that makes zero sense regardless of how you use your system...

    The AppIndicator extension SHOULD be default. There is no reason for it to be an extension other than pure stubbornness. There are applications that literally require it in order to function at all.

    [–] [email protected] 61 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    That you need an extension to disable the overview at startup still boggles my mind and the arrogance of the developers in the thread that started it didn't lessen my antipathy for Gnome at all.

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    [–] [email protected] 43 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Default the cursor to the Search field on a Save dialog is possibly the absolute fucking stupidest thing ever.

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    [–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago

    I think the lack of a system tray in gnome is a case of perfect of being the enemy of good.

    https://youtu.be/ejqNCbE42cg

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    [–] [email protected] 97 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    In a land where desktops can be ripped out and replace with ease - what's the point in arguing? GNOME isn't my thing but I'm glad it's an option.

    [–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Can you swap out desktop environments in Linux like launchers on android?

    [–] [email protected] 63 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Yeah pretty much. Or have multiple installed and pick which to use when you log in

    [–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Wait what?! Install several, pick upon login?! Had no idea, that's awesome.

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    [–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    My main complaint with how Gnome does stuff is in environments where it is the only option (e.g. RHEL).

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    [–] [email protected] 65 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    GNOME looks like it is touch friendly, but try to run it on a tablet and it's really fucking not. I had to DL a bunch of tweaks tools to make it useable at all and now the tablet breaks whenever there's a Gnome update that the tweaks weren't designed for.

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    [–] [email protected] 64 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Don't even try to say GNOME is a touch screen design. I've used it with a touchscreen, it's just bad design. What bothers me the most is that is close to being good if not for a couple of stupid decisions like having no system tray.

    [–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    The system tray thing irks me to no end. Some apps still use one to control things and you have to use hacky plugins to get them to show. Other than that there's a lot I do like about gnome. Plasma suits my needs more though. So much more you can do with it.

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    [–] [email protected] 64 points 2 months ago (9 children)

    I gonna be absolutely honest,gnome is fantastic for laptops.

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    [–] [email protected] 54 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

    Wh-what? Have you used GNOME before or just mad because they don't have the shitty main menu copied from MS Windows?

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    [–] [email protected] 54 points 2 months ago (9 children)

    I absolutely love (slightly tweaked) gnome. Fight me if you want, I'm sick in bed and have time.

    [–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    well if you're sick in bed this will be an easy fight...

    I elbow slam your face, your turn

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    [–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    "Fight me if you want, I'm sick in bed and have time."

    I'm also sick and in bed, and this is such an appealing offer of a sparring match, but alas, I've never used Gnome

    [–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago

    this makes you the ideal candidate for an internet argument !

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    [–] [email protected] 53 points 2 months ago (11 children)

    They seem to be at war with the minimize and maximize buttons.

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    [–] [email protected] 44 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I like gnome personally. It is all about simple inclusive design

    [–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago

    I get distracted/overwhelmed fairly easily, so GNOME is a godsend. minimalistic top bar + on demand workspaces to throw my extra windows into = I can actually get stuff done.

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    [–] zipzoopaboop 35 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    I thought it was going to be a joke about Windows 8

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    [–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago

    i like gnome, it looks good, is smooth, and does it's job

    [–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    most of the things in gnome extensions should be built in and available from the settings. that being said there's nothing stopping me from just using something else, hence why I use kde.

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    [–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago
    [–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Gnome is not really touch-centric, it's more keyboard-crentric. Sure, the activity overview is great for touch. It's even greater for the keyboard though. And I don't like using the mouse a lot anyway

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    [–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago

    Oh! A Gnome hate thread!

    I'm in!

    FUCKING GNOME>!!!111!!!ELEVEN

    [–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (9 children)

    I love GNOME and hate KDE

    When i switched from Windows to Linux, i wanted actual changes, not just a slightly different look

    Unrelated question: does anyone know how to show the time in fullscreen or merge the bar with window close button with the top bar with the screen so there arent 2 different bars in GNOME?

    [–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago (9 children)

    I used Gnome Shell 3 for 4 years before giving up on it and going to KDE.

    The huge differentiator is that KDE may look like windows OOTB on most distros, but if you want you can easily make it look like Gnome, Mac, Unity.. whatever. The panels and menus are infinitely configurable.

    And that is why this meme is dead on the money. I've come to hate dev teams that have "visions" that they cram down users throats regardless of the experience. And the irony is that Gnome 2 used to be much more configurable than older KDE versions.

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    [–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    More like forcing no customization

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    [–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (11 children)

    Both Gnome and KDE are 100x better than win or macOS. I use KDE for me but I install Gnome on my familly 's stuff.

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    [–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    I'm going to roll your machine back to KDE4

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    [–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    As long as I can still customize Gnome with some extensions for improved focus, it'll stay my DE of choice.

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    [–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (12 children)

    They need to stop messing with things that work. Feature creep is how Windows XP turned into the dumpster fire it is today. Does the interface have a working file explorer? Does it support add-ons? Does it have a file search? You're done.

    "But . . . "

    You're DONE.

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