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[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Why common? Just a shady track record?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I still don't understand why people would use services that require a phone number

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Most people don't care. And that's fine, they don't have a reason to. There's a lot of other things that are probably a higher priority for them.

Bigger question is if you're going to be doing things that are in any way considered shady or bad, why would you not take any precautions?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago

They do have to, we are literally living the era of Cambridge Analyticas and troll factories that proves why. Imagine tying your phone number to Twitter's app just to be classified as a troublemaker and persecuted in things like job searches just for disagreeing with Musk, it's closer to reality than you think.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

You can sign up and use a fragment number. Requires you paying in the telegram crypto TON, then registering that number during account sign up. It's not a real phone number and can't do sms or be used with other service, but it will get on you telegram without giving up your real number.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You have to be on at least some, right? I'm pretty hardcore about the hacker lifestyle and I still need to be able to open a new email account, get certain government services (although I guess most will do everything by snail mail) or communicate with certain businesses.

There's no good reason for a messaging service to work based on them, though, you're right. Signal I'm looking at you as well.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago

Signal is getting better. Maybe someday they'll support Telegram's features like pinning messages and large rooms. But they are a good alternative already if all you want to do is chat and share memes.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The other day, someone was trying to explain to me how telegram is being used for people looking for privacy and security. 😂

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

Yup....i remembered back in old days Telegram advertised as High Privacy & High Security chat app

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Shitty criminals shouldn't be protected, end of story.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ahh yes, the "i have nothing to hide why do I need privacy" argument.

Do you close your curtains or lower the blinds? Lock your front door? You must be a criminal.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago
  • if you don't that's fine, but then your neighbor, friend, coworker might have and you're causing them to jump through surveillance hoops
  • legal/illegal != moral
[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Thats literally why the bill of rights and due process exist. Legally and constitutionally everyone has a right to privacy and due process.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Not criminals. You're trolling.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Criminals have rights too. And I think it's sus that you went straight to child porn and trafficking. Most people just used it for drugs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Yes, thats literally why due process exists. Its also why the court system is innocent until proven guilty and eveyone has a right to a lawyer.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I guarantee you do something that's illegal somewhere regularly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I pirate. Biiiiiiiig fucking deal!

But am I fucking going around on Telegram in child abuse or trafficking rings or some other shit? Am I part of the child pornography ring or some other shit? Get the fuck real, you moron.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Ooh, that's spicier than even I meant. It's illegal to drink in Saudi, it's illegal to criticise Kim Jung Un in NK.

They absolutely could ruin your life for that shit if they wanted.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

If somebody has it, somebody can give it away.