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[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 93 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Boy howdy, I sure can't wait for 99.9% of all manufacturers on Earth to completely ignore this as well, and keep selling devices and cables that are completely unlabeled.

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I mean, you aren’t wrong. Good luck trying to get Apple to put a label on anything.

[–] A7thStone@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

But they'll still sell you a $180 USB C cable that's no different than one you can get for $75 and has all of it's labels.

[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Pick a different scapegoat; Apple's one of the better ones in this area

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Name one Apple cable that has any type of text on it. Or computer for that matter. They do simple. It’s not in their design.

[–] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 3 points 2 months ago

Stuff that's spec compliant has to follow the rules, non-spec compliant stuff can obviously do whatever, so yeah the cheap cables off ebay or amazon won't use the right logos.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 59 points 2 months ago (4 children)
[–] recursive_recursion@lemmy.ca 81 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

It's actually different and better as the previous naming scheme was actually horrendous (trying to explain it to customers was a nightmare).

Cause previously if you wanted to figure out what speed of USB port you were getting you'd have to look up the table because me telling you that a port was USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 doesn't tell you jack shit.

Can you see how cursed this is for non-tech savvy people? Absolutely terrible.

Thankfully now the new naming scheme will be:
USB +

  • 5 Gbps
  • 10 Gbps
  • 20 Gbps
  • 40 Gbps

So the xkcd meme actually isn't relevant here.

Edit:
Revised grammar in the first sentence

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[–] Beacon@fedia.io 34 points 2 months ago

The only thing changing here is the way cables are going to be labeled, the tech itself is staying exactly the same.

And on top of that, the author was generally correct for most situations, but usb (and especially usb c) truly has replaced a ton of separate connectors with a single standard. And it's very likely to continue to replace even more as time goes on

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[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 46 points 2 months ago (2 children)

But what about my shiny Certified USB 3.2 Gen1x2 Legendary SS+?

[–] einlander@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The cable names sound like gacha pulls.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

("legendary" and "shiny" aren't actually part of the name but SS+ is and it stands for SuperSpeed+. which is super-a-gacha pull

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[–] wax@feddit.nu 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Does shiny mean it's gold-plated? :⁠-⁠)

[–] 3laws@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (5 children)
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[–] Godnroc@lemmy.world 38 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thank fuck, a simple and clear marking that an average user can understand! I assume displayport compatible ports will still have that symbol, which is fine. Soon I'll be and to price out laptops that will work with a docking station without needing to read the damn manuals!

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[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago

General rule:

The longer the product's name, the more bullshit you get.

USB 3.2 Gen 2x2

[–] kipo@lemm.ee 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We're adding new, different symbols to the confusing mess of old symbols and keeping both? Neat!

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And whatever you buy is just going to be labeled as the fastest even if it doesn't actually meet the standard.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There are too many standards. Let’s make a new one so we can consolidate them all.

There are now N + 1 standards.

[–] SnortsGarlicPowder@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 months ago

This isn't a new standard. It's changing the naming conventions to make sense.

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Fucking finally

[–] Toldry@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

I'm still trying to find a good beard trimmer and electric toothbrush that charge with USB-C.

These are the only gadgets i have left that aren't charged with USB-C.

[–] wabafee@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

What is high-speed USB suppose to be? No speed just for charging?

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

From what I recall high-speed USB was USB 2.0, mostly that is used today for stuff like mice or keyboards where speed isn't really all that relevant.

[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

High-speed is actually low-speed, got it

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well, USB 2.0 did 480 MBit/s IIRC compared to USB 1.0 1.5 MBit/s and 1.1 12 MBit/s

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[–] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Ibf it was high-speed at the time, we've just surprised it since... Super-duper speed.

[–] espentan@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Yeah, 480 Mbit/s really felt lightning fast at the time, especially considering where we came from with USB 1.0.

[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 3 points 2 months ago

High Definition video is still 720p

[–] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It's USB2, so either for charging or simpler devices that don't need USB3 (Like keyboards).

Edit: Federation issue? I swear there wasn't an existing reply when I responded.

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[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

90% of USB cables are 480Mbps and it's not even included. This will be useless.

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 4 points 2 months ago

That would be USB 2.0 and is pretty safe to assume that all USB ports and cables support this (If you can find a USB 1.0 or 1.1 port I'll be impressed). Why bother with a 480Mbps logo if it's the default minimum?

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Couldn't give a fuck about speed labelling, how about wattage?

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Mate, you don't even need to read the article, you just need to look at the pictures.

Wattage is part of the branding guidelines.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well, it took like 10 years to get this far sooo probably sometime around 2038

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Usually what's called simpler as opposed to techy ways makes things, in fact, loads of crap more complex.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 2 months ago

No thanks. I'll wait for USB to develop their own writing and language first. They will get there one day.

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 months ago

I thought the G number meant how many Gb’s I could store in the cable

[–] Sorse@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Isn’t that naming like a few years old? I already have a cable with 40 gbps 240 W on it

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yes. They broke the news on this branding guidelines change in 2022.

It's unclear why it's making the headlines again now - perhaps they started enforcing it somehow (although I'm unsure how that would even work) at the beginning of the year?

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