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As an Arch user, whatever suits you.
I installed Arch on my ThinkPad because.............................................................................................. uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhh.................... I had an Arch sticker and I felt like I couldn't use it if I didn't use Arch.
Everyone has some reasons for their favorite distro.
I use Arch, and I have an OpenSUSE wallpaper.
Before this, I used Mint and had an Arch wallpaper...
I live to offend.
Opensuse unironically has some of the best OS branding and wallpapers. I like that little chameleon.
I use bazzite now but I liked all of the visuals of opensuse Kalpa better!
I'm too lazy to maintain an Arch install, so it's Mint for me. Long live Mint unironically.
Mint is one of the best versions of Ubuntu you could possibly use. They give you Ubuntu without all the forced snaps and other crap.
At that point just use Debian?
Fair enough, but Mint gives you the more up to date base of Ubuntu and some QoL tools that Debian doesn't have. If you prefer Debian, then use it. I just feel Mint is better for beginners or people who want an easier time with less tinkering.
Running yay every other day is all the maintenance I do on my arch installation.
Exactly. My wife is a teacher and she runs Arch daily, knowing only how to run yay.
Arch maintenance: 0. Install it once. (The proper way)
pacman -SyuI don't get what is with this so hard? Yes, configs can be undecipherable but 90% time the merge involves just deleting the .pacnew versions.
You say maintenance is 0 then list 2 things I don't have to do on Mint
Remembering to bother with a CLI and configs is the hard part, on Mint I get a nice GUI with reminders that I have updates to things. You know, like it's some time past the year 2000?
Running pacman every two weeks seems like a bad idea if you have a lot of packages... The dependencies can get dicey if you have to update too many at once.
*hear
hear!
I love it. This made me laugh.
But, as this month's chair of the of the Linux User Group for Letting Everyone Know We Hate Snaps (LUG LEKWHS), I want to clarify that we don't have a problem with Ubuntu users.
It's Canonical we have a beef with.
As an old crusty Slackware user and UNIX admin, IDGAF what Linux distro people use; using any of them is a step in the right direction.
Meh, I mean, Arch includes non-free software as well, so as a Trisquel user, you are all dead to me.
s/HERE/HEAR/g
As an Arch user, both Debian and Pop_OS are better choices than Ubuntu
No FLOSS loving Linux user is dead to me, not even the GNOME project team, and frankly I suspect it's noobies and non-users pushing these memes lately.
I agree. I don't think I've ever actually received or witnessed the hate that the memes espouse as the norm in the Linux community. I've seen some "oh really, I had trouble with that so I use blank instead" or maybe even "you should try blank" (mostly when people ask though). I think most of us are too busy hating Windows to really truly hate other linux distros. We have our favorites and we will happily share that with anyone that asks, and many that don't.
I've tried to stop talking about it all the time to friends and family as I don't want to scare them off, but I am just using it everyday in front of them and showing them that I don't have infinitely more problems than they do... Hoping it just seeps in via osmosis and at some point one too many "hey, you should buy a new computer, windows 10 is going end of life soon you know" pop-ups will set off that magical chain reaction.
I just went full linux on my daily driver about a year ago after running a headless linux media server for a few years.
Can someone explain to me why Ubuntu is so terrible? Is it not difficult enough to use or something?
Iβm going to preface this with saying whatever works for you.
Itβs not really about difficulty for most people.
Canonical (the people who manage Ubuntu,) has made some unfortunate decisions.
First, and I feel this has always been true, they approach their users with the assumption that they are in fact idiots. Microsoft has the same design philosophy, and it makes things much harder than it needs to be. (Some people may be idiots, but if they want to wipe the entire drive, thatβs their business, right?)
Secondly, Ubuntu tends snoop on you, and certain decisions by canonical raises alarms.
Finally, fuck snap.
Edit: if all youβve used is Ubuntu, get yourself a moderately large usb stick and try a few others out. No need to remove Ubuntu to try a new flavor. Linux is like ice cream. Find your favorite and stab anyone who disagrees with you. I mean, Stan it. Yeah thatβs it.
snaps.
oh, and that time that Canonical put Amazon telemetry in the default search application.
oh, and how they just bundle up "bleeding edge" stuff from a year ago and ship it with it's associated bugs.
It's been a few years since I tried but it just really turned me off.
Use whatever you like.
But don't complain "Linux requires constant work" after it breaks in a couple of years, instead, be free to complain "Ubuntu requires constant work".
Also, beware that it may be spying on you.
I'm sure there are as many reasons as there are people who dislike Ubuntu, but here's a few:
Overall it's fine. I've used Ubuntu, Mint, Puppy, DSL, Arch (btw), Fedora, and Debian. I can do pretty much anything I need to on any of them. I've got my preferences about the correct balance between useability, upgrade schedule, and customizability.
They injected internet ads into search
They did? Like filesystem search? I don't see that.
It was the application browser, and they rolled it back after the backlash.
To expand on the hate of snaps:
They're a packaging solution for apps and dependencies. They're apparently quite comfortable for app developers to use too. There was a hiccup where some apps really struggled to run well as snaps, but AFAIK that was fixed.
The common issues are snapcraft being the only repository and the methods of pushing them:
Snapcraft is where the packages are stored and loaded from, and it's a closed-source repo hosted and controlled by Canonical, with no option to configure snap to use a different source. That has advantages for security, if you trust Canonical to vet and take responsibility for the packages on their system, but some people chafe at that lack of control. Compare to flatpak, where you can add arbitrary repos, so any distro vendor can have their own set of packages and versions they've vetted for stability and compatibility, but if I want a different version than my vendor maintains in their remote, I can use a different remote for certain apps instead.
The second issue is that the classical apt system, which used to install .deb packages, was utilised to install snaps instead, so you'd run apt install package and expect a .deb to be installed, but instead it just downloads a script that runs snap install package and you get a snap instead, which is particularly annoying when you previously had it as a deb and it suddenly gets replaced. The argument here is a smooth transition to the "better" system, on the premise that snaps are better and the assumption that users won't care or notice. In some cases (the hiccups mentioned earlier) that just wasn't the case and people got frustrated, but even if it worked, some people (including me) take issue with expecting a deb and getting a snap - if I want a snap, I'll use snap, and if your deb is deprecated, offer me to switch instead of silently installing the alternate source instead.
I use Mint, by the way.
Linux distros are just the new "101 flavors of Protestantism," complete with radical zealots who believe you will go to Hell for choosing the wrong one.
As an Ubuntu user, I would never say "Long live Ubuntu".
I use both Mint and Archbang. I'm half-dead to myself.
As long as it follows Unix conventions it is the correct way to computer
I think I have like 4 different distros near me at any given time now that I think about it. A Debian one for Minecraft and some other game servers, my windows PC, a Mac for music stuff, and my arch laptop, I guess the steam deck technically counts too. Even at work I use all three occasionally.
Arch is nice, I use it on my laptop, but desktop / daily driver is Debian.
I'm a Windows user, that also loves Linux.
You're all going to shit on me, but you're really only shitting on yourselves.
Some day, you'll understand. Not today, but someday, you simple dumbasses.
I have to say I do like not having to worry about things like "does my OS take screenshots and send it somewhere to be used as an AI training set" and "do I have to accept the OS update they are shoving down my throat so that I basically sell my privacy for not having security problems". There is enough of that elsewhere already.
