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Summary

Italian police in Brescia face allegations of degrading treatment after seven female climate activists from Extinction Rebellion claimed they were forced to remove their underwear and perform squats during questioning.

The activists, detained after a protest against Leonardo, an aerospace company, accused police of singling out women for this treatment.

Police denied misconduct, stating the procedure was to search for dangerous objects.

The incident has prompted calls for an investigation from opposition politicians amid debates over a controversial security bill targeting climate activists with harsher penalties.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)

Lol it's to make sure you don't have anything shoved up inside of you. It's like you guys haven't ever been arrested before.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_cavity_search#Procedure

Squatting is sometimes instructed during the visual search, and prolonged holding of a squat can be demanded; squats are sometimes demanded while standing over a mirror (so that the observer has an improved view). The person may be asked to “squat and cough,” with the aim of dislodging an object stored in the rectum or vagina.

Edit: For the record fuck the police always, but this is a pretty standard part of being searched before you are processed

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 months ago

but this is a pretty standard part of being searched before you are processed

Not everyone lives in the US. If I remember correctly, here in Germany they are not allowed to routinely do these searches (doesn't mean they can't do them, but it's not standard when you are arrested). I think it's based on EU laws, so the same probably applies to Italy.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Then why are they saying only the women had to do this?

Edit: I've never had a cavity search any of the times I have been arrested.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago

Super standard, which is exactly why initially the police denied doing it 😒

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

From the same article

United States edit

In the United States, Bell v. Wolfish is the benchmark case on this issue. In its judgment of the case, the U.S. Supreme Court established a standard of reasonable grounds for performing cavity searches. Among these are security concerns at prisons. Such searches are generally governed by the Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution, which prohibits searches without probable cause.[3]

[–] RedditRefugee69 27 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Which US state is Italy in?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

“Everything’s legal in New Jersey”

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The point of the matter is the previous poster said that it was standard, my response proved it wasn't.

If you read even the summary you will see that it wasn't uniformly implemented.

[–] RedditRefugee69 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's your loose interpretation of "it's standard" that's tripping you up. US case law has no relevance on what's standard in Italy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

From the summary:

The activists, detained after a protest against Leonardo, an aerospace company, accused police of singling out women for this treatment.

Any other arguments that are D.O.A?

[–] RedditRefugee69 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You should ask yourself that question.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Lol, doesn't read the summary, uses overly broad terms and then points the finger at someone else.

Are ya sure?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Lmao. Rofl even.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

It's like you guys haven't ever been arrested before.

I can't say I have been, so thank you for the explanation.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I sorta need this explanation. Some fucked up shit.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

A lot of countries require the equivalent of probable cause to do a cavity search before entering institutions like prisons, jails, or asylums as a prisoner or patient.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Don’t waste your time, people no longer like facts just feelings

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 months ago

Police denied misconduct, stating the procedure was to search for dangerous objects.

Bullshit. Italian culture needs to grow the fuck up.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago

The thing that people in the comments missing is the "activists" part. Here is more details from the article:

The activists were among 22 people brought to Brescia’s main police station on Monday morning after officers interrupted a protest held outside the Italian aerospace and defence firm Leonardo’s factory.

Activists have alleged that while there they were subjected to degrading treatment at the hands of police officers.

In a video posted online, one member of Extinction Rebellion, the global environmental movement, said: “They asked me to undress, take off my underwear and do three squats, ‘for checks’, according to them.”

The woman claimed the treatment was “only reserved for the females, not the males”.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Isn't that standard process when booking inmates

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh that's fucked up then, rip

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It'd be more fucked up if it was standard...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

No don't you understand, morality is solely derived from legality

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

Nope. It's not 'standard.'

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

If that's the case, why do it only to the women?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Only in concentration camps.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

"Yeah that doesn't surprise me." -- Anyone whose ever seen an Italian Giallo film.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Can only imagine the outrage if this happened in Iran.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I got arrested in LA years ago and had to do this, is it different for women? Do they not need to squat to make sure there's no hidden objects?