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On American TikTok users cannot seatch the phrase "Donald trump rigged election", however when using a vpn to a mexican server the search does return results.

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[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 105 points 2 months ago

Heh, funny how that works

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 34 points 2 months ago

Imagine that.

[–] dtjones@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I've seen this posted elsewhere. Apparently it also doesn't show results for "Joe Biden rigged election"

[–] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thats because they seem to have banned searches for "rigged election" regardless of what other search terms you use.

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 4 points 2 months ago

Well there is only one person who is dumb enough to try to rig an election.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

That's disfavorable of Trump? I thought it was one of his main talking points.

I guess it would be disfavorable if it referred to 2024 rather than 2020, but claiming 2024 was rigged doesn't seem to be a big thing so I expect that most of the search results would have been about 2020.

[–] The_Shwa@midwest.social 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There is speculation that the 2024 election was rigged and it was the most recent election so I would expect that there would be more recent posts about it than the 2020 election.

Example: https://lemm.ee/pictrs/image/85d8ac97-7ebe-48ba-8582-a1078511594f.png

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Why would Trump say that!? I think it's just him being incoherent, but it would be a confession from anyone who isn't regularly so incoherent.

Edit: Maybe Trump meant to say that he won because Musk protected the machines from tampering?

[–] anas@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

He knows that even if the election was confirmed to be rigged, there’s nothing that will be done about it at this point.

[–] Steve@startrek.website 11 points 2 months ago

Shocking

Well…

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

I'll stay on Rednote until our "free" country bans that too to maintain capitalist control of the narrative.

We can talk about Luigi without our "free" country censoring us on our billionaire fascist owned social media, too.

[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Dare you to talk about Taiwan see what happens. Fuck off with this "free" shit.

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

They don't ironically gush about being the free speech people.

[–] aphonefriend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yeah that makes moral sense. It's fine to commit genocide as long as you don't deny it.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You think we're still capitalist? Im not sure what to call the economy of this protofascist state but it isn't capitalist with the amount the new administration is backing specific businesses.

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's still capitalism. I believe that might fall under cronyism? That, or simply oligarchy would work. But it's still capitalism.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

In capitalism the state is expressly not interfering on behalf of one business versus another. This would be like a communist state that had a stock market. It fundamentally goes against acore principle of the philosophy

[–] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That's mercantilism as the state approved and supported their choices.

Capitalism is the philosophical response to mercantilism so the East India Companies would not be capitalist.

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Then, the US hasn't been capitalist in a long time. Probably never was. The government has always interfered in the interest of one group or another. Sometimes, that group is (was) the public at large when it comes to labor or environmental rights. Sometimes, it's in favor of big business. Oftentimes, it is. Interfering on behalf of one specific big business over another is just the latest step in the road of corruption that has been brazen since Citizens United was passed.

The invisible hand of the free market has never existed. The rich have always been kept in check by government interference.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's literally the very first capitalist nation. If you have examples of specific incidents of the government expressly backing a specific American business and suppressing another as a direct result of bribes/"donations" I woukd be interested in seeing them.

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

How about a foreign business? For example, a British company. The US deployed into the Middle East at the behest of British Petroleum after the largest democracy in the region elected a leader who was going to kick BP out of the country for exploiting both the country's resources and people through horrible wages and working conditions - we're talking company towns of the 1900s style labor practices. So the US backed an up and coming dictator who destroyed the government on the promise of still allowing BP full control of the country's oil - Saddam Hussein.

Or how about the US funding companies like Wal-Mart with subsidies while also paying for their workers' wages because more than 50% of them are below the poverty line while they come into an area and destroy all the local businesses and drain the wealth of the people living in the area.

Or the most recent example, the US passing a law banning a company with a social media platform called TikTok while citing reasons that US based social media companies aren't held accountable for, despite being just as guilty.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

None of your examples are favoring one company over another.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

That’s an example that would need a source. Said source would also have to explain why the specific requests from the Saudi Arabian government were ignored in favor of BP’s requests as the common narrative was this was dine because the Saudi pipeline ends in Kuwait where ships are filled. It would further have to demonstrate that these companies were chosen to benefit at the cost of American companies as that would be required to prove that initial claim.

Im not going to hold my breath that you’ll find that source.

[–] derGottesknecht@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Please state your Definition of Capitalism, because this seems just wrong. Also a communist state is not necessary interfering with a company, the main thing communism requires is that the means of production are owned by the workers.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You should reread my comment because the comparison was to a communist state with a stock market which like a capitalist state expressly favoring one domestic company over another it is a contradiction.

[–] derGottesknecht@feddit.org 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Okay, if you meant this as an oxymoron, but that was not clear.

But your Capitalism definition is still widely off, because there is not really one, but lots of different capitalisms all around the world and through history.

There is for example state capitalism which is capitalism run by a state.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

State capitalism is a creation by Engles. I don't think it really is a form of capitalism as again capitalism involves little to no involvement from the state in private business

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[–] TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago

So is Instagram, I have read.

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Tiktok is ruined. I never used it, didn't like that it was being banned, but perhaps this was part of the deal they struck to get unbanned.

I guess just use a VPN and pretend to be from Mexico. There's some irony in it. Or better yet, not use it at all.

[–] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Tiktok isn't ruined, it's delivering exactly what it was designed to deliver: Propoganda.

[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

Oh look it's a both-sideser

[–] KiloGex@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

"Rigged election" and all associated searches don't return results. It's not just Trump.

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

So basically a bad conspiracy theory

[–] Linktank@lemmy.today 1 points 2 months ago

Is the insanely slow loading speed from midwest.social part of the censorship?