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The way things never were (lemmy.world)
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[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 34 points 2 months ago

I had to explain the concept of Vaporwave to my father, a musician who was active throughout the '80's. I told him it's zeitgeist for an era that never actually happened. So I think this hits the nail on the head.

There are similar, albeit less ᴀ ᴇ s ᴛ ʜ ᴇ ᴛ ɪ ᴄ, notions for other decades as well.

Everyone thinks the 1950's were a nonstop sock hop and an episode of Leave it to Beaver.

Everything thinks the entirety of the 1960's was Woodstock.

Everything in the 1970's was brown and orange, or wood grain, and had a ridiculous mustache on it.

...But then, everything that everyone knows happened didn't actually happen in the decade everyone thinks it did anyway.

[–] frankgrimeszz@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

80s/90s according to tv: You live in a large house with a huge bedroom and own everything anyone at the time would have wanted.

80s/90s reality: You more than likely owned almost nothing. Except for the lucky few, you were most likely broke and everyone you knew were broke too. You did happen to own a piece of shit VCR.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Expectation: Full House

Reality: Gummo

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The 90's for me.

Had a hard-working dad who was on a roof every day and owned his own company. (Which the '08 crash pretty much destroyed.)

I had everything I needed, a lot of what I wanted, and my life as a kid was a good one. The major upside, looking back, was that I had a future to look forward to, and that's something most young people now don't have.

[–] Squorlple@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I’d love a pre Big Bang universe

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

it's the same, but Michael Jackson moonwalks forward

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is MAGA.

[–] SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

I'd think the wording should be more like

'... back to the way they never got the chance to be'

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 3 points 2 months ago

I love this vibe.

[–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is this c/fascistaeathetics now

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Not sure where that's coming from, I'm an anti fascist and interpreted this as more about how nostalgia twists our memory

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

My first thought had been along the same lines. I thought of the word anemoia from The Dictionary of Obscure Sorrows:

anemoia - n. nostalgia for a time you've never known

youtube.com/watch?v=wH6ZClRjl14

Imagine stepping through the frame into a sepia-tinted haze, where you could sit on the side of the road and watch the locals passing by. Who lived and died before any of us arrived here, who sleep in some of the same houses we do, who look up at the same moon, who breathe the same air, feel the same blood in their veins - and live in a completely different world.

Vaporwave is inherently about a time that never existed, as it's a re-interpretation of very specific parts of a time period into an aesthetic. A nostalgia for dial-up modems, corporate ad jingles, and hold music all rolled up in that one pattern every paper cup had in the 90s with classical era statues, southern California palm trees in the sunset, and dolphins. A tourist's view of the nascent internet and the corporate tech world of the time.

[–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

"going back to a past that never existed" is a pretty common internet esoteric fasho thing

[–] drkt@scribe.disroot.org 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I know where you're getting that from but I think it's a stretch.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What's the context for that comment?

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Well, there is such a thing as "Fashwave" for some damn fool reason.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You should probably go for a walk outside more often.

[–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

No, you should stay inside more

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

According to who?

[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 3 points 2 months ago

I only know it from the fascist vision quest in Disco Elysium.

[–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

The my little dark age posters I guess?