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[–] [email protected] 118 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Awwww. Maybe if people actually had been reading the news they may have seen this coming. Now it’s only the leopards.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Which news? The one that downplayed everything he said, or the one that never mentioned a single thing he said?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 months ago (2 children)

No no....it was the one that justified everything he said and sane-washed it as being "not that bad".

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[–] [email protected] 108 points 2 months ago (4 children)

They aren't regretting here yet. I make comments about it and get brigade against. Hey Dearborn Palestinians for Trump: you guys were completely ignorant, ignored everything that man said, and still held out hope he would be better for your people for some god known reason. Ya fucked up.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 months ago (7 children)

The election was three months ago. These constant attempts to relitigate it are just an attempt by the right to divide the left.

The truth is there is blame on both sides. Those who stayed home hold some responsibility, and the Biden admin is also to blame for shunning their own base.

But now we have bigger fish to fry. There's a constitutional crisis on, and a united front is needed against the right. Fuck the dividers. When someone tries to divide the left, call them out on it or downvote them to hell. They're either a conservative or a Russian troll.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The right didn’t need help to divide the left this election. The left did it itself. The American left splintered into toxic little sub groups who all hated each other, saw each other as unworthy allies and called each other fascists for being even slightly right or even left of each other. Meanwhile the right was unified and laughing at the left who so easily felll for the right’s manufactured war

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Yeah. There were a lot of people saying they wouldn't vote for Biden or Harris due to one issue, even though Trump wouldn't be an improvement on that one issue they wouldn't vote for Biden on.

Now they're angry that Democrats have very little power to resist Trump.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Those who stayed home hold some responsibility

Second most of the responsibility, actually (actual Trump voters take the most responsibility). They screwed up, and now we're all paying the price.

But now we have bigger fish to fry. There’s a constitutional crisis on, and a united front is needed against the right.

Also true. If Trump voters and non-voters realize that they screwed up badly and want to work to fix it, then we need to accept their apology, forgive them, and let them stand with the rest of civilized humanity in countering Trump, Must, and their goons.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You're scapegoating 40,000 people who have lost family members in the genocide for not voting for the killers and using Dearborn as a slur at this point. Less people voted for Trump there than the national average. Keep proving you're a Nazi.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Fuck the Nazis, but also fuck the conservative Muslims that can't vote for a woman.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

that can’t vote for a woman.

That wasn't the reason and others have already given you receipts. You just can't stand that your genocide isn't as popular with Muslims as it is with centrists.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Fuck Isreal and what they did to the Palestinians. But I'm on the ground here and there were plenty of people that refused to listen to the words straight from Trump's mouth. They held Muslims for Trump rallies. Their political and spiritual leaders told them to either vote for trump or abstain. They met with the man believing he would not only de-escalate but bring peace when he's vehemently supported Isreal in the past. Complete stupidity and voting against their best interests. Now they live in fear of ICE stopping by their neighborhoods and sending naturalized citizens back, something unheard of before. Take some responsibility and make the necessary changes. I refuse to accept the Democrats going more conservative on things like gay and women's rights. Either everyone has rights or no one does, and we are seeing the no one version right now.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

But I’m on the ground here and there were plenty of people that refused to listen to the words straight from Trump’s mouth. They held Muslims for Trump rallies. Their political and spiritual leaders told them to either vote for trump or abstain.

What did you expect would happen when centrists ditched the only common cause the party had with Muslims?

Take some responsibility and make the necessary changes.

Because the party never fucking will. Ever.

I refuse to accept the Democrats going more conservative on things like gay and women’s rights.

Remember that when they do. Because they absolutely will. Resist the temptation to just point to their opponent and excuse everything Democrats do on the grounds that Republicans are worse.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Motherfucker, literally 65% voted for women.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (2 children)

"Trump won 42% of the vote in Dearborn, with Harris receiving 36%."

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (4 children)

pay no attention to the other woman on the ballot

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (11 children)

"Not voting for the killers" is REALLY a stretch here.

Honestly if Palestine is your one and only policy, not voting was the right choice.

It was well known from Trump's first term, and everything the man has ever said, that he would encourage attacks on Palestinians vs the Dems who simply stood by and let it happen.

There's a big difference between not voting for someone who won't help and actually voting for someone who hates you and will unapologeticly help your enemy kill you.

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 2 months ago (24 children)

People here still blaming this on minority voters are deafeningly silent on party leadership holding the coalition hostage over AIPAC funding

Stop directing your anger at people being robbed of basic representation instead of political actors who are gleefully accepting blood money to turn against their constituents and a blind eye to genocide

[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 months ago (4 children)

We know they're war-criminals. There's still a difference between that and leveling the place for a hotel. Trump gleefully accepted $100m from Adelson for the west bank.

Stop assuming we're pro-dems and not just anti-trump.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Stop assuming we're pro-dems and not just anti-trump.

This is the shit that drives me nuts. No matter how many fucking times you explain it, they just cannot wrap their heads around this for some reason. Or they refuse to.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I'm not accusing anyone of being pro-dems, I'm pointing out that this line of reporting is intentionally misdirecting anger at voters - who can literally only react to the policies and governance of the democrats as they are - instead of the democrats sabotaging themselves for thinking they could have their cake and eat it too.

Thinking that the democrats could participate in a highly-publicized genocide and not lose any voters is folly, but then turning around blaming the voters for the loss of votes is beyond hubris and well into delusion. Anyone with eyes could see this loss coming from a mile away and was screaming at the democrats to change course.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not assuming you're pro-dems, I'm pointing out that their loss is entirely attributable to their own political mis-calculation on top of their efforts to gaslight Americans about their roll and knowledge of the crimes being committed on their behalf.

Blaming voters for reacting to the Democrats' policy decisions - including the moderates they alienated - is simply yet another attempt to obscure the facts that lead us to this moment.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Probably more to do with the mass delusion and post truth world we live in.

And yes, enabling the greater evil is a failing of the people who voted against their interests because less evil wasn’t good enough.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (17 children)

enabling the greater evil is a failing of the people who voted against their interests

Democrats enabled the greater evil by ignoring the interests of the constituencies they needed to win. It doesn't matter if the lesser evil is objectively the right choice - they still need millions of people to go to the booth and make that choice, and nobody has more control over voter enthusiasm than the democrats themselves.

This is nobody's fault but the democrats.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Love seeing all the pissed off abstainers get angry that they're not being thanked.

It didn't work in 2016. It didn't work in 2024. Maybe next time? Oh wait....

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Love to see the pearl clutching idiots ingesting the propaganda and teaching themselves to hate their neighbors over a strawman.

If you actually payed attention and looked at data, you would know that protest votes didn't impact the election in any meaningful way

But I understand. It's really easy to get poor people to hate each other as a control mechanism.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Trump won the national popular vote by 1%

There was a 2% reduction in voter participation from 2020 to 2024.

So, yeah. Idiots staying home because there wasn’t a perfect candidate did impact the election in a significant way.

You staying home was a vote for Trump, and a whole lot of people are going to pay for your shitty behavior.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Many of [the voters] stayed home, and some of them voted for Donald Trump," he said. "But they are now feeling very clearly that they made a big mistake. And, you know, sort of like the kid who gets in trouble and his parents send him to his room and he goes out there and starts throwing stuff around... in a pique of anger. All he's got is a mess and that's what we've got here.

Now that some of them have (maybe?) woken the hell up, I'd like to see a shit-ton of apologies from those that bought into the concerted gEnOcIdE narrative to put donvict into office.

I am pretty sure that most of those pushing that narrative are not going to apologize, because I know the type, and they are very stubborn. They pretty much got what they want - many of them are, at root, nihilists. And that's just the ones that are not Russian trolls, who have mostly clammed up for the time being.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

concerted gEnOcIdE narrative

Disgusting wacko here.

Who demands an apology from the victims of genocide? Peak liberal entitlement to genocide.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Well, strawman arguments and calling me names is certainly a good argument. I guess?

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

No USA voter is the victim of genocide...what the fuck are you even talking about???

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

Time for you to go back to grade school and work on your reading comprehension.

The post, and the commenter you're trying and failing to talk down to, are talking about Muslim American voters. They are not directly genocide victims. They are people living in comfort in America failing to protect those in Palestine by making smart decisions at the polls.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Most muslims I know saw right through the bullshit, but it seems there is a growing dumb fringe in all communities. Two were very vocal about Biden but ultimately supported Kamala as (in their view) the obvious lesser evil. That even one would vote for the guy who put a ban on Muslims in his first term will always baffle me as the most stupid shit I've ever witnessed
Edit the n+1th most stupid after the nth things diaper don does

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago (3 children)

They didn’t need all Muslim voters.

They needed “enough” Muslim voters. They peeled some off. And some voters on the economy and some voters on other issues.

The glaring issue with Palestine is that they were basically silent on it. Harris needed some daylight with Biden, but she chose the VP hat over her candidate hat and kept her mouth shut. (Or she doesn’t disagree with biden’s response. Which would also be problematic…)

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I was so happy when she took over because she'd have the freedom to distance herself from Biden on the issues that were killing him (apart from the obvious senility). Instead she just kept trying to make everyone knew she approved of everything he did. What a terrible terrible mistake.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (6 children)

yeah, I'm with you on that.

She could have been respectful. "as VP it's my job to stand by my president, and I will continue to do that- as VP. but as a candidate? I gotta say here's how I will be doing things differently.... "

And lets just be completely honest with Biden on gaza- He spent most of that time giving Netanyahu a blow job even though Netty was fucking him over by supporting trump.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's a fringe that was a minority irrelevant to the election result but a favorite punching bag for liberals who'd rather do that than confront people in their own community and social networks. All the white racists they know get a pass, because they were just mistaken or misled, but they have passionate anger for minority voters who were witnessing an active genocide for not having 100% Democratic turnout.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sorry.

All out of sympathy.

Maybe if their trash decisions, after numerous warnings and pleas for common sense, didn't lead to putting my own country in extreme jeopardy, I'd find the will to give a shit about their problems.

Hope they like the leopards shitting on their faces.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago (12 children)

I still believe this was a targeted campaign to get dems to sit out. Their strategy is to spread as much shit as possible, and as soon as they see something that sticks, push it hard. It's sad, but this strategy is extremely effective against the left because we're all too eager to find a reason not to support the dems.

The only defence is to be aware of this strategy. Rather than shit on people, try to explain how they've been duped so next time they have a chance of noticing.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (4 children)

You’re right, and that’s why it’s the DNC/harrisncampaign’s fault.

Harris needed to put daylight on the issue, and instead just assumed “yeah but trump is worse” would actually be effective.

They didn’t reach voters and basically allowed gop propaganda and lies to reach their base without answer.

They just assumed voters were there like in ‘16, and this time the voters told them they weren’t. And here we are.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

The good old FAFO and the Gaza Ghetto has the possibility of becoming a resort. Always vote for the lesser of the two evils.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (4 children)

"Expert" recites Democrat propaganda about blaming voters. Choir laps it up

Is this expert as expertly as Democrat campaign leaders?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Someone told me that it was over now and we should just get over it. I swear to god, I vowed every day that I aruged against these fuckers, non-stop for 5 months, to throw this in their face and make them regret. I'm not going to make myself a liar. My high morals prohibit it.

None of it will mean shit when it's 3 years down the road and I'm pleading, "do not make this fucking mistake again." And they do it anyway. No, I want to shame them away from politics. I want to shame them to being active trump supporters. If there is no lessons learned then I get to enact revenge.

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