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French President Emmanuel Macron has called an emergency summit of European leaders to address concerns over Donald Trump’s efforts to control Ukraine peace talks.

European leaders fear exclusion from negotiations between the U.S. and Russia, as Trump’s envoy signals a limited role for Europe.

Ukraine’s President Zelenskyy urges the formation of a European army to counter potential U.S. disengagement.

European leaders warn Trump’s approach could undermine regional security, while the UK and Germany stress the need for long-term security guarantees for Ukraine.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago

Should probs done that Nov 7th, but glad it's at least happening eventually

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

NATO all capitals!! Goddamnit.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Europe's scrambling like a headless chicken as the strongman across the pond yanks the leash. Macron's emergency summit reeks of panic – a last-ditch attempt to pretend continental relevance while Washington plays realpolitik chess with Putin. The spectacle of Starmer jetting to Paris proves Brexit was theater; London still licks bootprints in Brussels corridors when the bombs start falling.

Zelenskyy's "European army" fantasy hits like cheap vodka – intoxicating but ultimately pathetic. Twenty years of gutting defense budgets for welfare teat-sucking, now they want Ukraine's blood to forge what EU bureaucracy couldn't? The irony's thicker than a Strelkov rant. Meanwhile, Trump's envoy drops truth napalms about European free-riding, while the German foreign minister moralizes about "free world" binaries like some Weimar-era pamphleteer.

This circus reveals the rot beneath the marble facades. NATO's corpse twitches as technocrats argue protocol while artillery eats Donbas soil. The "transatlantic alliance" now means American fracking execs drooling over Ukrainian lithium deposits and European leaders begging for table scraps. Democracy's death rattle sounds suspiciously like the clink of oligarchs' champagne glasses.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What are you the barstool politics correspondent for Maxim magazine? Lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Barstool politics? Maxim magazine? Your attempt at wit is as limp as NATO’s credibility. Stick to your lane, Friar—this isn’t the kiddie pool, and your flailing only proves you’re out of your depth.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I’ll translate: you sound like a douchebag.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

His username is a community reference. He thinks he is edgy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh that was already obvious with how he writes his self-proclaimed "snark".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah that writing style is…oof. That’s what I’m saying. It’s like reading a political column in an early 2000s maxim magazine mixed with some barstool sports douche.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

Stick to your lane, Friar—this isn’t the kiddie pool, and your flailing only proves you’re out of your depth.

Are you a shitty mad-libs bot or something? What the fuck are these comments, hahahaha...

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're not wrong, though I'm not so sure about blaming "welfare teat-sucking". EU right wingers in many countries have pushed hard for decades to slowly dismantle the welfare state, while also neglecting European security. The rich helped the rich get richer, and everyone else is paying the price. Clink clink.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The welfare state wasn’t dismantled by accident; it was gutted with surgical precision by the same technocrats now crying crocodile tears over “European security.” Blaming right-wingers alone is a cop-out—they’re merely the blunt instrument. The real architects are the neoliberal mandarins who sold out sovereignty for cheap labor markets and corporate kickbacks.

The rich didn’t just “help” the rich; they engineered a system where austerity is gospel and public goods are heresy. Europe’s security wasn’t neglected—it was commodified, parceled out to NATO contractors and energy oligarchs. Clink clink? No, more like ka-ching ka-ching, as the champagne flows over the ashes of accountability.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

You disappoint me. You had engaging metaphors that had me amused even while disagreeing with much of what you said. But then you refuted someone else's comment referring to the clink of champagne glasses with the sound of a till and went right back to champagne! Do keep going, it has been entertaining, but only if the consistency is held to the highest standards.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Just curious, do you get 10¢ for every metaphor you write or something?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Oh, bless your heart. If I had a nickel for every time someone mistook snark for wit, I’d be swimming in champagne right now. But alas, here you are, offering me a dime for metaphors like some budget literary critic.

Your attempt at banter is as flat as a soda left open overnight—uninspired and fizzless. Maybe next time, try contributing something of substance instead of playing the role of the peanut gallery’s understudy.

Now, if you’ll excuse me, I’ve got metaphors to write and minds to provoke. You? Well, you’ve got… this. Enjoy!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Man, they're going at it hard, every sentence has at least two in it. I haven't seen something as cringe as this in a while.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're not wrong about a lot.

while Washington plays realpolitik chess with Putin

But, um, we will see about this “realpolitik” in a few months, and if the results are really all that pragmatic, or just a capitulation to Russia.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

The thing about "realpolitik" is that it’s just a fancy word for power plays dressed up as pragmatism. It’s not a strategy; it’s a gamble, and Washington's chessboard is littered with pawns that look suspiciously like entire nations. If this is "pragmatic," then it’s pragmatism with a body count.

Capitulation or not, the outcomes are always framed as binary because that’s easier to sell to the masses. Either way, the winners are the same: corporate interests, military contractors, and the bureaucratic elite who keep their champagne cold while the world burns. Realpolitik isn’t about results—it’s about keeping the game going.

So yeah, let’s see where this "chess match" leads. Spoiler: probably another war-torn country and a few more billions siphoned off into offshore accounts.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I think I like the other kind of artificial intelligence better