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Immigrants or refugees do not have a higher tendency to commit crime and there is no correlation between the proportion of immigrants in a given district and the local crime rate, according to a new analysis of the latest German crime statistics carried out by the renowned ifo institute.

The Munich-based institute correlated the latest national crime stats from 2018 to 2023 with location-specific data in the new study to show why the fact that immigrants are overrepresented in crime statistics had nothing to do with where they came from.

Migrants tend to settle in urban areas, where there is more population density, more nightlife, and more people in public spaces at all hours of the day. That means the general crime rate is higher, and crime suspects are just as likely to be German as of foreign background. In other words, districts with higher levels of "immigrant" crime also have higher crime rates among Germans.

"These places increase the risk of becoming perpetrators for residents, regardless of nationality, due to the infrastructure, economic situation, police presence or population density," the study said.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 months ago (2 children)

"the anecdotal display of migrant crime i see on tv is what matters, not the statistial evidence" - my family

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

We live in a post-truth era

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Neo truth Era. You make your own

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

To quote one of the greatest minds of American executive administration's: alternative truths!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Don't watch TV then

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Yeah but fake news sure do love blasting that shot every chance they get and normies love doing that faux outrage.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but how are their pets

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

WE SHOULD HAVE LISTENED

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

How is that possible? They can't legally work, so they must illegally work. What did I miss?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I think unreported employment is being handled by customs and the tax administration, not the police.

Also, migrants include naturalized citizens and people with permission to work.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You're saying they just excluded the group of people who can't work from this study?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No, they're excluding entire classes of crimes that really don't matter to begin with. Otherwise the crime rate of most countries is 100%

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Yeah, that seems disingenuous.

I mean, crime rates are almost certainly 100%. That's a terrible metric. The metric isn't a percent but the number of crimes committed per month per capita.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Immigrants and migrants can legally work.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It hasn't, as far as I know. I am not aware of any country that currently or historically prohibits immigrant or migrant labor.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

What? This is definitely the case in the US. And I've read its the case in Germany.

Or are you also just excluding undocumented folks from the set of people?

Undocumented immigrants are also immigrants. They do not have permission to work legally.