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Summary

A YouGov poll in five Western European countries found majorities view Donald Trump as a threat to European peace, with concerns rising after he suspended military aid to Ukraine.

Most respondents oppose Kyiv’s exclusion from U.S.-Russia peace talks and doubt Europe alone could support Ukraine.

Support for increased defense spending remains limited, despite fears that Russia could attack again.

Proposals for European peacekeepers in Ukraine have mixed support. The survey highlights growing skepticism about U.S. commitments to NATO and European security.

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[–] [email protected] 124 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A majority of Western Europeans also have a better education than the majority of my fellow American citizens.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Many europeans always have thought about USA as a threat to peace. The migrants crisis in europe is a direct result of USA fucking up the middle east for decades.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

And now we have far-right ultranationalistic movements popping up through Europe as a result.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

And we fuck up other places to, lets not sell the US short.

https://youtube.com/shorts/l3gBif0K6cc?feature=shared

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Most if us un the US too, probably.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

Both supporters and opponents.

The supporters want violence. Us opponents see that he is pushing for it.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 months ago

Majority of western Europeans are paying attention, survey finds

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago

Objectively he is.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago

A minority of western Europeans are idiots.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hi guys, new here on lemmy. Just want to say FKUC Trump!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Welcome, avoid the tankies

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

If it was only peace lol.

He's a threat the very survival of the specie.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Yet support for increased defense spending is limited. I guess there may be a change in attitudes once the Americans enact tarrifs against the EU and/or formally leave NATO.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Most countries have announced increased defense spending with support across the political spectrum and EU defense stocks are one of the few safe havens left during this tariff nonsense. France has offered a nuclear umbrella to its neighbours. Poland is up to 5% GDP on defence. Not sure what you mean by limited support but maybe I misunderstand.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I was referring to the survey results.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

They don't even have to leave NATO formally, just undermine confidence in article 5 enough that it's no longer a deterrent.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That is because in countries like The Netherlands, 100 square meters will cost you about €500 000 at the moment. Warming my house on natural gas costs me €10 a day. In the grocery store, the avarage item price is now €3,-. We must have health insurance (good thing!) but if you can't afford it, you have the option to gamble on higher "own risk". That means paying more out of your own pocket. Gasoline is €2 a liter. We also have to reduce CO2 but don't have enough capacity on the grid to support all the green initiatives. Meaning electricity prices go up. Immigrants fleeing from terrible conditions are very welcome here (also, good thing!), but they need to be paid for somehow. Life is expensive and spending more on military means higher taxes or worse services.

Personally I don't have it bad at all and most people still don't, but I can understand why some people see this as a hard pill to swallow.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If US commitment to the NATO nuclear umbrella is questioned, Russia will attempt to capitalize on it.

Threats of nuclear action are considerably more believable when there's no threat of nuclear retaliation. Ukraine would never have been invaded if they still had nuclear weapons.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

Read that as: Majority of Western Europeans suspect ocean of containing water.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Doesn’t the majority of everyone everywhere think this by now?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I think at this point for majority of the world, this is common sense now.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Only western Europeans? I would think eastern Europeans are even more terrified of the implications of Trump being an obvious FSB asset.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

"The great peacemaker" needs big wars so that he can eventually "make" a peace...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

We’ve been saying this in the U.S. since 2016.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

If the western world turns fully towards darkness as it has before during the world wars, the European ideals will get crushed quickly by superpowers on both sides. I cant see Europe being able to defend itself for long if USA goes fully satanic.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Breaking news, really. The dude who threatens to invade his allies is a threat to peace, bravo! If we keep up this pace with dealing with the situation, then we are doomed.

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