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[–] [email protected] 70 points 2 years ago (1 children)

All Ukraine said is that Russia deployed 15000 men to Bakhmut and that Ukraine fighting in Bakhmut keeps them from being redeployed to the Zaporizhzhia front... Sensationalist titles, much?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

I mean he also said "Now it's redeployed to roughly the north of Bakhmut, and that's the place where it's going to be buried."

To me it sounds like the strategy is to pin down units to prevent them redeploying, but this specific pinning is going so poorly for the Russians they have no means of escape.

Maybe I'm misinterpreting.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It seems the Russian devaluation of human life extends to their own lives. Putin cannot be executed enough times to properly pay for his crimes against the innocent Ukranian citizens and even his own Russian conscripts.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

I'd happily settle for once.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If it's any consolation it's pretty bad to say but it might be good for humanity in the end. Half the issues they have is the lack of men caused by a previous war with a figure that Putin is trying to emulate now.

Putin is sending more of his men to their deaths unnecessarily. Could have been avoided by not starting the war. But what's done is done, now that it is started the men that has been liquidated will help restrict Russia in the future. They still haven't recovered from WW2.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

One wonders what this means in the short term for Russian people in Russia. Forget the propaganda and where they think all of the men went, what will they do when there are no more men left age 16-50?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

I think it's a bit overestimated. There are many dead soldiers,yes. But it's not like a whole generation of men is whiped out

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Why are the Russians so desperate for Bakhmut? Just to have a win? This feels like very Verdun or Stalingrad. The city itself is fucked up from the war, it's not that much value at that point for either side, other than symoblic victory. The Ukrainians are doing good in not as hard trying to take the city itself and rather use it as a bait to destroy Russian troops.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Why are the Russians so desperate for Bakhmut? Just to have a win? This feels like very Verdun or Stalingrad.

I don't know about Bakhmut, but holding Stalingrad had a great strategic importance. The Soviets and Nazis didn't commit so many forces there just to hold an arbitrary village. It feels weird that you mention it as if there was no real point to it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago

Fuck russia.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago

Liquidated. Extinguished. Deprecated.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago

Child abducting, culturally and morally bankrupt thugs. Surrender now or be destroyed.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Kyrylo Budanov told The War Zone that Ukraine was pinning down Russian forces in Bakhmut to prevent them from being deployed to other axes where its counteroffensive is pushing forward.

The unit was suddenly deployed to the front lines, despite soldiers being told they would be sent to fight in December, the UK department said in an update earlier this month.

Their rushed deployment was likely a sign that Russia "continues to grapple with an over-stretched force along the front," the update said.

While fighting continues to rage around the eastern city of Bakhmut, which Russia occupied in May, Ukraine's counteroffensive has been pushing forward in the Zaporizhzhia area in the south of the country.

Oleksandr Tarnavsky, the Ukrainian general leading the counteroffensive on the country's southern front line, told CNN in a report published Saturday that his troops had broken near the city of Verbove in the southeastern Zaporizhzhia region and that they continued to advance further.

Budanov said: "The threat for Russians to lose Bakhmut makes them redeploy at all times additional and additional forces to the Bakhmut area, which of course drains their resources from other directions like the south."


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[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 years ago

Kill em all and let God sort em out.