I’m glad. I hate the fact that TV’s are so cheap now that fixing them literally isn’t worth it. Same with a lot of laptops and tablets and stuff. I’d much rather have a chunkier phone than one I won’t ever be able to fix.
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In the last few years I've fixed about a dozen TVs, they can definitely suck to fix at times (especially the really new ones) but in general the fixes have been simple. And all of them were snagged out of the dumpster at my apartment complex.
And that's just the TVs I've fixed. I like to fix things.
In terms of phones they're a nightmare though. I'm keeping an eye on HMD phones and Fairphone though as both of them are a LOT easier to fix than other brands.
In the event of my current phone breaking I'd love to get either one of those brands.
What’s the typical fixable issue you are finding?
For TVs it's usually really simple, like internal fuses or blown caps. And a few with bad backlights or mainboards that are dead.
For 2 of them it's been shorts in the LCD itself which meant I had to block the clock pin from the TCON board for the specific part of the screen with the short. Basically killing a line of pixels to get the TV working again. In general if the TV is 4k and smaller than like 45 inches you'll never see it unless you look for it.
That's a super involved fix (involving A LOT of trial and error to find the right pin) but it keeps it out of a landfill.
In general fixing a TV is always cost effective unless the actual LCD has physical damage.
hey, I'm getting into this kind of repair. I have good soldering skills and am great at taking things apart, but do you have any tips on how to find the fault? even it's just a blow capacitor, what am I looking for?
NGL I usually only do component level repairs on the power boards (or in the case of appliances most of the components are easy to find docs for and are much larger) but I usually find stuff by poking around with my multimeter or looking for obviously blown things. But my experience is more from the realm of appliance repair (and all from experimenting).
Testing capacitors can be done (and if they're big enough) something I'll do as well. I ain't gonna test capacitors that are smaller that a grain of rice.
There are times though that it's easier to just buy a new board rather than do component level repair.
Good news is that when it comes to TVs those boards are usually really cheap.
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Blown capacitors are nice and obvious.
Most capacitors you'll find are cylindrical, with a flat side of the cylinder pointed up. They'll usually have a big X cut into that top side, allowing it to flex a bit. But if that top side is bulging a lot, that's a warning sign, if it bulged so much that it opened up and it either looks burned on top, or some kind of paste is actually seeping out, then that thing is way past done.
With capacitors a visual inspection is really all you need. You'd actually need more expensive specialized equipment than a standard multimeter to actually test their capacitance. But if you look at it, and your description might include words like "exploded" or "popped", or "wtf is this mess?", then it's bad.
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Probably bad caps in the power circuit
Reminds me that I have to fix mine. Just shows the LG logo and does nothing
Probably not much more I can do besides replace caps
NGL when it comes to that kind of fault I usually just replace the mainboard, they're usually dirt cheap and it's a hell of a lot easier to swap that whole board than it is to poke and prod for an hour just to find out it's some 40 pin monster with micro-soldiered pins.
The power board is usually what I do component level replacements on. The t-con board and the main board I usually just swap.
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This is one of the handful of things me (a leftist) and my rural Trump supporting family both heavily agree upon. It's nice to find some common ground in such a divided America.
I think we got lucky on it that John Deere and Car companies have been trying to ruin repairability long before it was cool.
And "right to repair" is a nice simple slogan, even the most rural person in America can hear that and will probably go "Fuck yeah I should have the right to repair my car!"
Trump/Musk (especially Musk) could totally come out against this if it gains traction.
I guarantee, your family's tune would change
Just got a framework laptop and I’m really happy
Me too. It's worth it.
To me it's weird to even think of repairing stuff you buy as a "right" - that's a given. The issue is the nonexistent "right" of a seller to restrict what a customer does with a product after buying it. That's as ridiculous as a shoe company trying to dictate where you can or can't walk. It's a no-brainer, and should never have to be argued in court or anywhere else.
When written out like this, it seems simple as - but the most simple version really isn't what's at stake. Companies make and trademark specialized tools for their goods, to prevent third parties from providing repairs. Warrantys are written to keep a company from being liable for repair/replacement if a customer attempts to repair a product themselves.
Pretty much every case in the right to repair movement is a challenge to a legally acceptable means of market capture, that just happens to create a stupendously shitty consumer environment.
Market capture is unethical in almost all cases. Unlike humans, if a 'for profit' business model can't adapt and survive in a market, then it doesn't need to be put on life support indefinately.
It's like people learned all the wrong lessons from the big beginners of this crud show....(Thanks a lot MS and A**le)
This is a major reason of why we can't have nice stuff.
Absolutely agreed that market capture is unethical, but that doesn't have much to do with the legal basis of right to repair cases.
+1 Insightful
But it wasn’t until 2022 that the right-to-repair battle reached wide public consciousness when consumers questioned why McFlurry machines were always broken at their local McDonald’s. The Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) made it illegal to bypass certain proprietary systems like the one that Taylor Company, the McFlurry manufacturer, used to fix the equipment.
After a repair startup filed a lawsuit challenging Taylor’s restrictive repair policies, which only allowed its repair people to fix machines, the U.S. Copyright Office announced new exceptions to the copyright law to allow third-party McFlurry repairs. Kit Walsh, a director at the nonprofit rights group Electronic Frontier Foundation, welcomed the change.
Of course it had to be about maccas. America is so weird 😂
It's kind of stranger than you might think. People were galvanized in support for the "little guy" franchise owners being exploited by the big corporation. Still no movement on the minimum wage that some of those little guy franchise owners pay though.
Local & state level is where a lot of the progress will live on in the near future. Call your local legislators & vote in every local election - they are way more frequent across the country than you may realize
I was just thinking about this the other day after removing the fifteenth torx screw from the bottom of my Shark vacuum's roller head. They hid screws under the pipe hatch and the two tiny friction mounted front wheels. Vacuums are triple the price and rollers are no longer removable from the outside.
45 minutes to fix what is essentially a five minute problem. They'd rather you throw it away and buy the whole head unit from the site. They even have bars blocking you from cutting hair from the roller without opening it.
Shit like this is why I still use an iPod 5th gen. No internet. No tracking apps. Just you and your hard copied music on a device that can be opened, repaired, and modded.
My partner just did the SAME operation on our Shork vacuum cleaner due to steadily declining performance. The ultimate diagnosis is the brush head has lost its brushes. They don't sell a replacement, but they do sell an entire power head replacement for $99. Fuck these guys, we'll never buy a Shark again.
Definitely do not buy Shark products. They used to be good, but maintaining any of their stuff now feels like it was intentionally designed to rip you off.
I have their old vacuum cleaner that I’ve repaired five times and I’m never getting rid of it.
I gotta find me one of those. Mine was a gift from my mother and I am not looking a gift horse in the mouth in this economy. It's a bit of a pain, but I'm good with my hands and even better with pulling apart tech. It's a pain, but not impossible to clean.
Bonus is that you can buy third party roller replacements for a third of the price of the head unit. At least third party markets are still allowed for the time being.
Wow. I must have an older Shark; mine comes off with three coin-turnable plastic bolts. Collectible! (I have two!)
I dunno how many vacuum cleaners I've scrapped for free from damn near everywhere and 90% of them only have a mega clogged hose. 5 minute fix usually and I made my own skookum twisted wire reamer in 5 minutes with wire and a drill. People throw away good stuff without bothering with it and just buy a new one instead of saving themselves time and money by eliminating the obvious. If a vacuum design gets too complex, I simplify with sheetrock screws. Warranties are made to be broken by making it work yourself. The things you learn that way also helps other areas in life all around.
the fact that this is and has ever even been an issue is wild.
Just had my brother in law show me a concept phone where you just put in block modules for the things you want and need in a phone. Want more battery? Take off your camera block module and plug in more battery block modules.
Obviously the concept as presented is near impossible to achieve. I told him that and said we can get close. I showed him framework laptops that are trying to achieve the very thing he wanted (to a certain extent). He said that if they could make that a phone he would switch from his apple ecosystem in a heart beat. The ability to swap for a bigger speaker on the fly for get togethers and parties was tantalizing (big music guy).
Just interesting because even non tech people want this when you sell it to them properly. They don't actually want a walled garden ecosystem that is "simple".
RIP Phonebloks
I'm feverishly imagining smart phones with old school slider keyboards
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For Canadian Right to Repair advocates: CanRepair is a brand new advocacy group started by R2R advocates from all over the country. The first Annual General Meeting is on March 25. Sign up to be a member and go to the AGM!
Am I the only one that finds it weird that Louis Rossman is not even mentioned in those articles about right to repair?
I mean, he said that he didn't care at all if his name was mentioned or not and that he would be happy if the movement got traction "by itself", without him being involved.
But I still think it's weird that he is not even mentioned when they are giving examples of pro-repair groups/shops etc. Idk...
I tend to assume malice with regards to the news. They likely dont want to drive people to his give him traffic because then they might agree with him.
The news are owned by the same billionaire class as the companies that make many products.
11 years ago I bought a GE Fridge, spent 4 grand on it, and all I want is to just be able to fix it myself.
4 grand, and a whole lot of viable parts but it's designed to crap out over time. I've 3d printed an evaporator fan shroud, condenser mounting bracket, and sourced replacement parts for the compressor and defrost cycle diode.
All in all I've probably saved $1,500 in the services a repair tech would charge but in all reality, I'd have been told about 4 years ago to trash it and buy a new fridge.
I still have vacuum cleaners from CCCR era still working repairable and almost perfect!
Right to repair used to be intrinsically understood by almost everyone. Electronics used standard components and came with the schematics. Car had government managed standardized interchangeable parts. Now led headlight are 2000$ and unrepairable..
I will die on this hill! Yes it is the common sense!
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