Been a minute since I've read up on the Yugoslav wars, but are we sure this alliance is primarily worried about Russia and not that place in the middle there?
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You mean the Russia-lite in the room?
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Bosnia and Montenegro? What did they do?
NA education moment, thought Bosnia was Serbia for some reason. Would prolly get me stabbed if I made that mistake in region.
I introduced my Croatian friend to my Serbian roommate about a week into arriving in Germany, thinking they’d hit it off and be excited for a common language.
They were both kind and very firm about how differently the interaction might have gone if they were slightly different people.
They did eventually become friends, but I also eventually met my roommate’s parents and got a better understanding of the older generation.
Honestly only the dumbest fucks still keep up the grudge. It’s literally the same type of person that gets attracted to populism, e.g. Trump – got instilled strong sense of nationalism, everyone’s wronging us, etc.
I am 2nd gen diaspora and really tired of the circus. I have tried to read up on the Yugoslavian war to come up with an objective picture, and it is wild how differing takes you get from people.
There are certain actors that are trying to ”Make Serbia Great Again”, and of course there is the short-sighted knee-jerk reaction on the ”opposing” side in neighboring countries. There have been violent border incidents spawning out of nowhere. I wouldn’t be surprised if it is all a facade to draw attention from the country’s internal political issues.
It was a horrible war instilled by a handful of people, there were no true winners, and people who were once treating each other like brothers and sisters were turned against each other. Anyone trying to instill the hatred and bitterness, especially OUTSIDE the area, is an idiot.
I wouldn’t be surprised if it is all a facade to draw attention from the country’s internal political issues
What? No! I'm sure the fact they only ever seem to flare up when there's domestic issues to distract from are a coincidence.
Because of political machinations of Queen Margrete Norway and Denmark got the same king in 1380 resulting in a union and later sort of annexation of Norway into Denmark.
Now follow a series of wars with Sweden the next 400 years.
Im the peace of Brömsebro in 1645, Herjedalen is ceded to Sweden.
In the peace of Roskilde in 1658 The King had to ceede Bohuslen, Jemtlandand and Trondheim len to Sweden. (Trondheim was later ceded back)
In 1814 after the Napoleonic war Denmark-Norway was on the losing side and the Danish king had to ceede Norway to Sweden, while Faroe, Iceland and Greenland who was part of the nominally seperate Kingdom of Norway was not.
Norway became independent in 1905 and tried to get Greenland back in 1930 with no success. Mind you none of the people living in these areas now are remotely considering themselves Norwegian. In 1905 Norway had rearmed and fortified the border in preparation for war that never came. In the end we elected a Danish prince as King.
The Danish "tyrrany" lost Norway lots of land and I have had people in Balkan countries look horrified and shocked that we dont do anything to reclaim what is rightfully Norwegian.
It says something about the mindset as we now call Sweden "Broderfolket" (Brother people). No one cares about the "lost" land and we sort of took Bohuslen back by buying up tons of summer homes there
First summer homes, then charming yet unpretentious little gift shops, then ice cream stands...where does it end? ;)
NEVER! Not until the historic Injustice suffered by the poor Norwegians these last 400 years is put right. /s
To the barricades, citizens! Bring your handwoven hyggë!
I dunno, it is 20 years after Milosivec croaked. How lionized is he there these days?
The Serbs I've talked to online and a couple in person seemed ambivalent about taking responsibility at best. They are generally more pissed about the NATO intervention into their ~~genocide~~ SMO, and overblow how much death it caused compared to the death they (former yugo states) inflicted amongst themselves. I am confident Russia uses this as a wedge issue to their advantage these days.
“And Serbia took it very personally”